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#180614 - 09/02/08 02:24 AM Hot water ?
OldAppy Offline
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Registered: 08/06/06
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Loc: Titirangi, AKLD, NZ
Howdy, How's everyone?

Can someone tell me a typical time span the network here in NZ turn off the H/W?

Cheers OA

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#180615 - 09/02/08 02:57 AM Re: Hot water ? [Re: OldAppy]
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Registered: 07/05/02
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Loc: SI,New Zealand
Gidday Craig,
Why is it you ask this?
Our Power Board(Sorry Lines Company) here uses the 11pm ON and 7pm OFF, via Ripple control as far as Domestic controls are concerned.
There also used to be the afternoon boost during the Winter too, for 1 hour, 13:00-14:00.

Ray (RODALCO) who is a Vector Faults Technician, nearer to your area(Titirangi), could give better advice.

There are so many ways that Hot Water systems are controlled these days, it's hard to give one blanket statement, mate.
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#180616 - 09/02/08 03:25 AM Re: Hot water ? [Re: Trumpy]
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Registered: 08/06/06
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Loc: Titirangi, AKLD, NZ
Hey Mike,

My relay control hasn't worked for many years, the relays crap out real quick out here -

Long story short H/W is on a 20A MCB, i wanna chuck in a Monotron relay and hook up some control times to stop the cylinder from constantly trying to recover, so when the 2 teenage daughters have used all the hot water .. etc

Probably looking at have it set to go off @ 05:30 - 07:30 and 18:00 - 21:00

Power bill is brutal at the moment avg 1250Kw p/m for last 4 months.

Back at school - so oldappy again - inspectors this time :-)

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#180622 - 09/02/08 12:40 PM Re: Hot water ? [Re: OldAppy]
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Loc: Titirangi, Akld, New Zealand
OldAppy. Your hotwater should be on nearly 24/7.

There may be a brief cut between 1700 and 1900 hrs when the maximum demand is high in winter times.
Over the spring / summer / authum, no hotwater restrictions are done, unless in case of an important feeder being lost.

Woodlands park is on the pilot system controlled from Laingholm sub.
With the storms last month, we have had problems with trees shorting out the pilots and hence hotwater and streetlight complaints. Most of these are resolved in a couiple of days.

If your relay is crooked, phone your retailer and an EMS Vircom contractor will replace the relay. ( no charge )
Check if there is power on the incoming pilot. ( first terminal left of the neutral ) if not, the pole fuse may be corroded.
Also the contacts do burn out on some of the cheap Mexican relays, which were bought about 15 years ago. The symptoms are clearly visible in the latter.

Regards, Raymond RODALCO from Titirangi
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#180626 - 09/02/08 05:49 PM Re: Hot water ? [Re: RODALCO]
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Hello down below from up above. Not to take this thread off course, If I understand th posts, do you guys get hot water supplied like from a utility or community supplier? I guess it would make sense if there was a viable heat source like geothermal or something. Just carious
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#180629 - 09/03/08 12:59 AM Re: Hot water ? [Re: RODALCO]
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This is where all the energy is going.
I can't believe that a hot water system is being continuously energised.
45% of a house's power consumption is through an Immersion heater, more if it is old, just to keep the thing warm in the colder months.

Mind you, we are talking about Auckland here, the place that never gets below 10C

Like you say, Craig, you have teenage daughters, now that has to waste your hot water!

What size is your cylinder?, as it sounds like it might lack capacity.

BTW, if you run your cylinder with a timer on it, my lights down here might be a bit brighter!
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#180630 - 09/03/08 02:42 AM Re: Hot water ? [Re: Trumpy]
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Registered: 08/06/06
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Loc: Titirangi, AKLD, NZ
Well if you wanna live way down south where its cold - what do ya expect??? hahaha :-) brrr...

i haven't checked the house side of the relay box, best i get on to that..

Tank is 180L and 2 years old - unfortunately its no competition for 2 girls who believe a long shower ensures enduring beauty.

POCO controls a relay that enables on and off for a 3Kw hot water storage heater - apparently badly in lots of areas - either pilot, ripple control, wireless etc.. Raymond would be your man on that.

Mike do you know a bloke up these ways involved in Kendo last name "Stephenson"

Cheers Craig

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#180644 - 09/03/08 09:14 PM Re: Hot water ? [Re: OldAppy]
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Loc: SI,New Zealand
 Originally Posted By: OldAppy


Mike do you know a bloke up these ways involved in Kendo last name "Stephenson"

Craig,
I have been involved in Kendo for about 20 years, but you can't know everyone, the Southern contingent, hardly ever gets in with the Northern part, this is due to travel costs and the logistical thing associated with it.

I'm currently limping through 2nd Dan, due to Tennis Elbow in my left arm, borne by lifting welders and pipes at work, the Doctor says it can take up to 2 years to heal, which is great when you can't even grab a cup of coffee in the morning, let alone a bamboo sword at night.
I would like to have more time for hobbies, but at the moment it just isn't possible.
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#180657 - 09/04/08 11:54 AM Re: Hot water ? [Re: sparkyinak]
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Registered: 11/23/02
Posts: 449
Nope, they are not Iceland.

They have electric water heaters, which are basically told when they can operate by external control of the lines company. They run an extra line to your home, which energises a contactor, which connects the water heater to your house power.

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#180661 - 09/04/08 06:20 PM Re: Hot water ? [Re: classicsat]
sparkyinak Offline
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Registered: 07/08/07
Posts: 1295
Loc: Alaska
thats different. Thanx
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