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#179942 - 08/06/08 04:33 PM Emergency lights on dedicated circuit
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I recently failed an inspection because the existing exit/emergency lights were on a dedicated circuit with a sp breaker lock. I was told that circuit needed to be tied in with a breaker that controls a row of lights in the vicinity of 2 emergency lights.(There are other e/e's throughout the building....a liquor store) Customer turns the fixtures on and off by the breakers. Just wondering if Art#700.12(F):exception would apply? Light fixtures and e/e's originate from the same panelboard. There are more than 3 rows of lights. My remedy was to tie e/e circuit in with a row of lights to be left on 24/7.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
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#179946 - 08/06/08 06:05 PM Re: Emergency lights on dedicated circuit [Re: frankgi]
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OK, a plain english explanation....

One open large area/room/store/office, etc.
IF three (3) or more lighting circuits in that 'room', you are allowed to have a 'dedicated' exit/em circ w/cb lock.

IF NOT, the exit/em lighting has to be circuited (connected) to the local lighting circuit, before any switch.

You also mentioned 'existing'; did you touch, modify, relocate, or not touch it?
Usually, a retail store falls under the 'more than three (3) circuits', and has a dedicated exit/em circuit with the 'nite lites'. The number of 'rows' is not really relevant, it's the # of lighting circuits.

What part of NJ are you in ?? And what Article was cited? and by who, Elec, Fire or Bldg?







Edited by HotLine1 (08/06/08 06:07 PM)
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#179948 - 08/06/08 06:28 PM Re: Emergency lights on dedicated circuit [Re: HotLine1]
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>You also mentioned 'existing'; did you touch, modify, relocate, or not touch it?
Usually, a retail store falls under the 'more than three (3) circuits', and has a dedicated exit/em circuit with the 'nite lites'. The number of 'rows' is not really relevant, it's the # of lighting circuits.

Hi and thanks for your reply.
Just added 1 exit/em with a dual remote head outside, from existing exit/em dedicated circuit. Easily more than 10 lighting circuits from panel. (1 circuit per row)

>What part of NJ are you in ?? And what Article was cited? >and by who, Elec, Fire or Bldg?

SJ.... Art 700 .....Elect
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#179955 - 08/07/08 05:01 AM Re: Emergency lights on dedicated circuit [Re: frankgi]
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Best solution...call and speak to the elec inspector, explain that there are more than 3 circuits, the e/e is dedicated, and there is a breaker lock. Conformance with Art 700 IMHO, from your explanation.
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#179964 - 08/07/08 12:17 PM Re: Emergency lights on dedicated circuit [Re: HotLine1]
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Thanks John.
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