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#179646 - 07/25/08 11:23 AM National (USA) lisencing - informal survey.
Samurai Offline

Registered: 05/04/07
Posts: 45
Loc: Fl.
I'll give a little background first, I have a master electrician's license in Florida. Work in Florida has all but ground to a halt with exception of some very large companies; but there are lots of places elsewhere looking for licensed journeymen. I wonder why there isn't a national minimum recognition of a master's license in one state as at least a journeyman everywhere else. the tests are all based on national code a downgrade to journeyman elsewhere also removes the immediate threat of competition coming along from someplace else. I'd like to hear thoughts on this.

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#179647 - 07/25/08 01:33 PM Re: National (USA) lisencing - informal survey. [Re: Samurai]
renosteinke Offline
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Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 5305
Loc: Blue Collar Country
I'm not sure I understand your complaint, question, or desire.

True, the trade is regulated in widely varying ways in different places. It is also true that this regulation is often claimed to primarily exist for restricting competition.

Yet, such claims need support. It's just too easy an assertion to make. Ditto for similarly cynical claims as to access to apprenticeship programs.

Whatever credentials you have, they will be critical in placement of you by the various trade-related employment services.

Bear in mind that the market in understandably cautious; I'm sure you have seen all manner of poor work performed by supposedly qualified persons.

#179649 - 07/25/08 02:09 PM Re: National (USA) lisencing - informal survey. [Re: renosteinke]
dougwells Offline


Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 1226
Loc: kamloops BC Canada
We have inter provincial trades in Canada

Electrician being one of them

#179651 - 07/25/08 02:20 PM Re: National (USA) lisencing - informal survey. [Re: renosteinke]
Samurai Offline

Registered: 05/04/07
Posts: 45
Loc: Fl.
I can't help but agree with you over most of what you said; especially quality vs. certification. I have also run into circumstances wherein electrical products have completely different different nicknames depending where you go (which makes you look silly for claiming to have broad and deep experience and not knowing, for example, that in Arizona, they call a studguard a "dottie plate" rather than a "nail plate" in florida - both are nicknames.) (in fact I was recently rebuked by a leadman for saying that #1 [thhn]is suitable for 130A his reply "#1 is good for 200A" - he had been a lineman before turning 'electrician')

#179652 - 07/25/08 02:25 PM Re: National (USA) lisencing - informal survey. [Re: dougwells]
Samurai Offline

Registered: 05/04/07
Posts: 45
Loc: Fl.
yeah Doug, my wife has her Canadian citizenship and was telling me that her ex. (another electrician) is certified all over Canada - period.

#179653 - 07/25/08 03:07 PM Re: National (USA) lisencing - informal survey. [Re: Samurai]
Bill Addiss Offline

Registered: 10/07/00
Posts: 4196
Loc: NY, USA
We don't have a State License in NY. Neighboring counties don't even reciprocate with each other where I am.

In all fairness though, Licensing requirements are different between my County and the next. Length of experience to qualify is one (I think), and another has to do with required CEUs.


#179658 - 07/25/08 05:34 PM Re: National (USA) lisencing - informal survey. [Re: Bill Addiss]
resqcapt19 Offline

Registered: 11/10/00
Posts: 2209
Loc: IL
This is a states rights issue and the feds have no business looking at a national electrical license.

#179661 - 07/25/08 05:54 PM Re: National (USA) lisencing - informal survey. [Re: resqcapt19]
SteveFehr Offline

Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1192
Loc: Chesapeake, VA
Still, would be nice if more states would reciprocate licenses, even if they caveot with things like requiring the work be supervised by an in-state master electrician, etc.

#179662 - 07/25/08 07:08 PM Re: National (USA) lisencing - informal survey. [Re: SteveFehr]
Theelectrikid Offline

Registered: 04/30/04
Posts: 854
Loc: Levittown, PA
I'll go one below Bill, PA only has local city/municipality licensing. If I become a journeyman in Falls, I'd need to go to Bristol Township and get a license to work across the street.

That's all in the future for me though, so back to your regularly scheduled programming...

Ian A.
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#179664 - 07/25/08 07:13 PM Re: National (USA) lisencing - informal survey. [Re: Samurai]
gfretwell Offline


Registered: 07/20/04
Posts: 9023
Loc: Estero,Fl,usa
Which jurisdiction are we talking about. As far as I know there isn't a "master electrician" license issued by the state, only the various contractor licenses.
Wiremen are licensed in some municipalities tho.
Considering how bad Florida is about recognizing other state's licenses I doubt there will be much reciprocity out there.
Greg Fretwell

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