The Electrical Contractor Network

ECN Electrical Forum
Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

Books, Tools and Test Equipment for Electrical and Construction Trades

Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#178578 - 06/05/08 03:35 PM No Sparkies Needed here!
renosteinke Offline
Cat Servant
Member

Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 5305
Loc: Blue Collar Country
I've been busy getting a restaurant ready for a new owner. As far as I was concerned, my part of the job was limited to installing some steam tables ... no other changes were to be done.

Yea. Right.

No sooner had the inspector left, than the owner did some 'midnight electric' himself. Here's what I found on opening day:

At first glance, a nice sushi bar. The only problem is that there were no receptacles for either the sushi cooler, or that Pepsi cooler.




A closer look in the corner makes one suspicious ....



Our first code problem is the use of an extension cord as a replacement for permanent wiring. Looking behind the sushi cooler, and we're on to problem #2, the issue of disconnection:



Let's look closer at the ceiling penetrations; there's an issue about the cords being subjected to damage:



The cords enter the attic, where you see this lovely run to a receptacle placed for the servicing of the HVAC gear:



You can see the orange cords so artfully draped over the very pipes, etc., that you're going to need to walk / crawl upon. No attachment, no zip ties, no effort to run them in a less exposed manner.


Edited by renosteinke (06/05/08 03:36 PM)

Top
2014 / 2011 NEC & Related Books and Study Guides
#178581 - 06/05/08 03:59 PM Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: renosteinke]
Theelectrikid Offline
Member

Registered: 04/30/04
Posts: 854
Loc: Levittown, PA
"Cheapness pervades the place."

Ian A.
_________________________
Is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?

Top
#178589 - 06/05/08 06:22 PM Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: Theelectrikid]
HotLine1 Offline

Member

Registered: 04/03/02
Posts: 6804
Loc: Brick, NJ USA
Seems like there is always 'things' that show up 'after' the inspection. Storefront (interior) neon boarders and signs; the 'center tables' that were not in the food prep area; the scale, cash register, meat slicer. Liquor stores are good for a whole bunch of interior window beer signs, and sparky only installed a duplex! Some food places 'add' things five minutes after I do the final inspection; others may wait a day..assuming I won't be back!

Should have been an extension cord and cube tap salesman.
_________________________
John

Top
#178591 - 06/05/08 06:55 PM Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: HotLine1]
WESTUPLACE Offline
Member

Registered: 03/29/04
Posts: 252
Loc: Kingwood, TX USA
At least it is sprinklered!

Top
#178600 - 06/06/08 01:38 AM Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: WESTUPLACE]
Texas_Ranger Offline
Member

Registered: 12/17/01
Posts: 2343
Loc: Vienna, Austria
My company (electrical planning) recently had a school where the maint. electreician started ripping down new stuff even before the project was officially finished... of course the electrician who did the original work screamed bloody murder and said they voided his entire liability for the original work by messing around with it.

Top
#178755 - 06/10/08 06:07 PM Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: Texas_Ranger]
electure Offline

Member

Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 4226
Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
Is that the factory cord on the sushi cooler?

Sure is a l-o-n-g one if it is

Top
#178756 - 06/10/08 06:19 PM Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: electure]
renosteinke Offline
Cat Servant
Member

Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 5305
Loc: Blue Collar Country
Scott, I wondered about that ... it sure looks like it, with a molded on plug.

FWIW, the previous Sushi cooler I found this guy using has a two-wire cord, with a ground wire added on later, and run along the outside of the zip cord .... secured by tape every foot or so. I think I had you post it a few years back.


Edit: I found the original pics, and have edited them ... to showcase the fine workmanship \:\( Different jobsite, same customer:



And I do NOT remember how the ground wire was terminated:



Edited by renosteinke (06/10/08 07:13 PM)

Top
#178758 - 06/10/08 07:25 PM Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: renosteinke]
djk Offline
Member

Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 1269
Loc: Ireland
Japan uses a version of the NEMA 15amp outlet, but it's not quite the same.

The two pins are of equal size, non polarised and there are slightly different spec.

Most Japanese outlets are not grounded, so appliances like Washing Machines and cooking equipment has a seperate ground lead that is connected to a bonding post on the end of the outlet.

They also use 100V 50Hz/60Hz.. not 110-120V 60Hz as in north america.

Top
#178821 - 06/12/08 06:11 PM Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: djk]
djk Offline
Member

Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 1269
Loc: Ireland
Japanese outlet:


Top
#178830 - 06/12/08 07:51 PM Re: No Sparkies Needed here! [Re: djk]
renosteinke Offline
Cat Servant
Member

Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 5305
Loc: Blue Collar Country
Thanks, Dave ... that explains a lot!

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >



ECN Electrical Forums - sponsored by Electrical Contractor Network - Electrical and Code Related Discussion for Electrical Contractors, Electricians, Inspectors, Instructors, Engineers and other related Professionals