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#17745 - 12/02/02 05:37 AM New Item Posted At Tech. Ref. area [Basic Planset Symbols-1]
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For those interested, the following item has been added to the Technical Reference Section on December 2nd, 2002:

Basic Planset Symbols-1

This added per Member request.

More detailed Symbols pages are planned to be posted in future.

For a complete listing of the items found at the Technical Reference Section, check the lists in the Menu For Technical Reference Section

The Reference area is located in the Technical Discussions Subsection at the lower end of the Forums page.


In case hyperlink for menu is unusable, this is the URL: http://electrical-contractor.net/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000064.html

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#17746 - 12/18/02 11:51 AM Re: New Item Posted At Tech. Ref. area [Basic Planset Symbols-1]
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Just curious to how these worked out for the ECN user that wanted to use the symbols in pricing Databases???

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#17747 - 12/18/02 12:15 PM Re: New Item Posted At Tech. Ref. area [Basic Planset Symbols-1]
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FYI.
National Electrical Installation Standards(NEIS) are also ANSI standards. NECA 100-1999 is "Symbols for Electrical Construction Drawings". We recently purchased a set of the available standards for our reference library, and are exploring the integration into our specifications and drawings. Hopefully, this will translate into fewer contradictions and mistakes, less work for our engineers and designers, and easier comprehension by our and other field construction personel. Go to the NEIS site for more info. The use of a nationally recognized standard assures all users nationwide to be on the "same page" when using or creating construction drawings. I admire your efforts, Scott, and your symbols may in fact mirror those in the above standard.

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#17748 - 12/18/02 08:23 PM Re: New Item Posted At Tech. Ref. area [Basic Planset Symbols-1]
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Warren,
I have a problem with the whole NEIS concept. I work for a NECA contractor and have not hearted on peep about this ongoing saga from them. (I have seen it for quite a while in e-mails) At $20 - $25 a piece I personally am not going to be buying any of them any time soon. So, how do we, the field work force, install anything in compliance with these standards when they are not marketed to us and are out of reach financially for the few of us that care?
Last week I went to our San Diego office to help on a bid for a large pharmaceutical company. We had to do an interview/presentation and I went as the proposed GF. The specs were full of references to installing per these NEIS standards. When I inquired to the higher ups about it, they were surprised I even knew what they were. Yes the office has been collecting them as they come out but the must be some deep dark secret or something because most of us in the field have never laid eyes on one. Let alone gear our installations to comply.

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#17749 - 12/18/02 08:26 PM Re: New Item Posted At Tech. Ref. area [Basic Planset Symbols-1]
Nick Offline
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Scott,
Do you use attributes with your block symbols? If not I have some really good ones I will share if you want. I’ll let you know where they came from when I send them.

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#17750 - 12/18/02 08:42 PM Re: New Item Posted At Tech. Ref. area [Basic Planset Symbols-1]
ThinkGood Offline
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Registered: 08/07/02
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Loc: Milwaukee, WI
Hi.

Would somebody clear something up for me, please. I am not up on the information about NEIS/ANSI/NECA.

There is a PDF (sorry for another acronym) file with electrical symbols at http://www.americantech.org/eresources/resources.cfm

(Scroll down or search for "ELECTRICAL SYMBOLS")

I see some of the differences such as the symbol for a switch having a vertical line or not.

Are the symbols on the PDF considered outdated?

Thanks.

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