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#176253 - 03/27/08 11:27 AM Pay Attention to Detail !!!
renosteinke Offline
Cat Servant

Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 5305
Loc: Blue Collar Country
Those in the Chats know I've been working on making a new community center. This job has sputtered along for over six months, and has involved all manner of inspections, committees, reviews, etc. Well, we're at the end stage - and boy, did I drop the ball!
The short version: I failed to review the trim details, and did not allow for (among other things) the 12" wide trim around the doors in setting my boxes. The result? Lots of major re-work.

Bad news: This is a long post.
Good news: There are lots of pics.

Bad news: Stuff I've been doing forever wasn't good enough.
Good news: I learned something.

I'll start with a light switch. Here is is, after the trim was installed:

Note that the trim is flush with the wainscotting. An attempt to camouflage this goof ALMOST worked:

The exit signs were another problem area. First, my hole before the trim went up:

Once the trim went up, you can see the problem (paint spray makes it hard to see the line):

This pic shows the solution ... a large backing plate behind the signs (forgive the poor picture quality):

Finally, I had to re-hang the bathroom lights. Rather than using the usual 4" box with mud ring, I was forced to use 1/2" "pancake" boxes and some MC to deal with the framing, etc. The fixture - as seen in this "before" pic - allowed absolutely no 'wiggle room' for an off center box:

Once again, the prints did show the fixture centered over the sink.

Tools for Electricians:
#176254 - 03/27/08 01:13 PM Re: Pay Attention to Detail !!! [Re: renosteinke]
EV607797 Offline

Registered: 10/25/06
Posts: 756
Loc: Fredericksburg, VA, USA
Yikes! That reminds me of myself. I never read the assembly instructions for anything (those are for lightweights). If I added up the countless hours that I've spent doing things over again, I could write a book.

I also never stop and ask for directions. My wife loves that one.

"But the guy at Home Depot said it would work."

#176264 - 03/27/08 04:14 PM Re: Pay Attention to Detail !!! [Re: EV607797]
Rewired Offline

Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 567
Loc: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
I had a similar experience only it wasn't my fault but because I called the forman and lead hand on their "mistake", I got the job of fixing the mistake. ( the mistake being they moved the location of a receptacle and cable jack without approval and without checking the details of the prints.)

To make a long story short, receptacles and cable outlets do not work well when located in the space a sliding wooden door is going to occupy when said door is open, especially when something is plugged in!


#176270 - 03/27/08 08:00 PM Re: Pay Attention to Detail !!! [Re: Rewired]
twh Offline

Registered: 03/11/04
Posts: 895
Loc: Regina, Sask.
I spend too much time checking architectural drawings for thickness of wall board, width of trim, height of shelves, width of horizontal slats and starting elevation, mirrors, murals, walls that don't reach the ceiling, walls that don't reach the floor (it's true), width of cabinets, etc. I still get it wrong, but I'm getting better at fixing it.

You have my sympathy.

#176275 - 03/27/08 08:30 PM Re: Pay Attention to Detail !!! [Re: twh]
Hemingray Offline

Registered: 04/19/05
Posts: 195
Loc: Lehigh Acres, FL
swap out that ivory 3way with a white one ;\)

#176276 - 03/27/08 08:41 PM Re: Pay Attention to Detail !!! [Re: Hemingray]
renosteinke Offline
Cat Servant

Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 5305
Loc: Blue Collar Country
Sorry, H ... Ivory was specified.

#176394 - 03/31/08 08:29 AM Re: Pay Attention to Detail !!! [Re: renosteinke]
ChicoC10 Offline

Registered: 05/30/07
Posts: 169
Loc: CA
I've learned the hard way to, as I'm nailing up my first switch box to the king stud at the door holler to the GC "Say, your not using big trim are you?"

I've failed to properly visualize tile backslashes with embarrassing results too.

There have been several switches on the wrong side of the door though only one of them I will claim as my own.

#176455 - 04/02/08 02:09 AM Re: Pay Attention to Detail !!! [Re: ChicoC10]
Texas_Ranger Offline

Registered: 12/17/01
Posts: 2332
Loc: Vienna, Austria
Switch on the wrong side of the door is an ancient problem... renovating our 1914 place we found the original installers placed all three bedroom / living room switches on the wrong side of the door... and come on, if you have a door in one corner of a room, how likely is it the hinges will face the room instead of the corner? They _always_ put the switch in the corner...

#176468 - 04/02/08 11:53 AM Re: Pay Attention to Detail !!! [Re: Texas_Ranger]
trollog Offline

Registered: 10/02/04
Posts: 273
Loc: San Diego California USA
I always seem to land water heater circ pump receptacles
directly behind the heater, or obstructed by some major duct
or pipe. Without fail....

#176504 - 04/04/08 07:29 AM Re: Pay Attention to Detail !!! [Re: trollog]
Zapped Offline

Registered: 10/01/02
Posts: 481
Loc: Huntington Beach, CA, USA
I spent a few days moving boxes on a job. The "designer" (read:idiot) decided it would look nice to have 8" trim and casings around the doors. Did I mention that he did this after the job was in finish?

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