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#173563 - 01/13/08 06:31 AM Corrugated metal roof detail...
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I have seen (and done) conduits, fixture chain, etc. screwed directly to the underside (ceiling) of corrugated metal roofs in commercial buildings.

I am bidding on upgrading some fluorescent shop lights to T5
low-bays, and some of the existing shop lights are installed this way.

Does anyone know the details, or have a sectional drawing of a typical roof of this type.

Thanks,

Reds

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#173567 - 01/13/08 08:00 AM Re: Corrugated metal roof detail... [Re: Redsy]
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do you mean pole barns ? just a lag eyebolt, S hooks, and chain ?????
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#173569 - 01/13/08 08:55 AM Re: Corrugated metal roof detail... [Re: togol]
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corrugated metal roofs, I never make any holes in them I have however attached to corrugated deck roofs. I will all depend on the design of the roof, and what the manufacture recommends, as with any roof system check first.

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#173571 - 01/13/08 09:31 AM Re: Corrugated metal roof detail... [Re: LK]
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I'm imagining those steel buildings, where all you see is steel beams and puffed-out plastic wrapped fiberglass insulation. If that's what you have, then there is NOTHING between that fiberglass and the sky but that single layer of sheet metal.

Naturally, you do not want to punch any holes in that metal. I've hung lights by attaching beam clamps to the lighter steel framing pieces. This is also a good place to use SO cord for the whips; MC seems to impart a twist to the fixtures, leaving you with a pretty sloppy look.

I was really impressed with the T-5's I installed. In a bay measuring about 50x80', with the lights mounted 22 ft. up, a dozen 5-lamp fixtures lit the place brilliantly.

In another place, I found the same fixture to be more than a match for the 400w Metal Halide lights that had been there.

IF you are lucky enough to have two layers of sheet metal - that is, steel-insulation-steel - for the roof, then you can mount directly to the inside layer. Nothing will really hold besides toggle bolts.

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#173572 - 01/13/08 12:27 PM Re: Corrugated metal roof detail... [Re: renosteinke]
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I'm finally done with my nap...if redsy is talking about roofs that are supported by steel bar joists, then he could simply throw a piece of shallow strut between two joists up at the roof pan and with twirl nuts and eyebolts hang the fixtures from that .

we also used a piece of 3/4 EMT with minnies and S- hooks to support 8' strip lights
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#173574 - 01/13/08 02:21 PM Re: Corrugated metal roof detail... [Re: Redsy]
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If the specs allow it we will tek screw to the decks.

I also used about 500 of these




on one job to support florescent strip lights on cable.

Heres a picure




Deck Hanger and TDHP2 Punch




Edited by iwire (01/13/08 02:27 PM)
Edit Reason: Add picture
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#173579 - 01/13/08 03:50 PM Re: Corrugated metal roof detail... [Re: iwire]
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Just a hunch but I think the corrugated roofing you are talking about, might be pan decking. lightweight
concrete is poured on top of the pan decking. When you look up and see the lighting supports it appears they are attached only to corrugated roofing when in reality they are anchored into the concrete above.

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#173582 - 01/13/08 04:06 PM Re: Corrugated metal roof detail... [Re: Redsy]
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Thanks, Guys!

I am talking about metal roof decking supported by bar joists.

I know it is more than a single layer of corrugated metal, because I have screwed straps to it in other facilities in the past.

I will check with someone at the facility to verify.

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#173589 - 01/13/08 07:14 PM Re: Corrugated metal roof detail... [Re: Redsy]
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Thanks, Les.
I hope you are well.!!

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