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#172214 - 12/16/07 06:37 AM 406.8 Receptacles in damp or wet locations
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All 15 and 20 amp, 125 and 250 volt non-locking receptacles in wet or damp locations will be required to be a listed weather-resistant type.

Just putting it out for comments.

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#172219 - 12/16/07 07:37 AM Re: 406.8 Receptacles in damp or wet locations [Re: JohnJ0906]
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Isn't that what the while in use weatherproof cover is for. Wonder what will make the recep itself "weather-resistant".

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#172222 - 12/16/07 09:08 AM Re: 406.8 Receptacles in damp or wet locations [Re: Matt_G]
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Wonder what will make the recep itself "weather-resistant".

The metal parts are more corrosion resistant and the plastic parts are more UV resistant. Even with the cover there is more dampness to corrode the metal parts of a receptacle that is installed in a wet location
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#172225 - 12/16/07 09:19 AM Re: 406.8 Receptacles in damp or wet locations [Re: resqcapt19]
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This may actually be one of the best changes in the 2008. I know we have all seen an outside receptacle that fell apart when you took it out of the box. That may not be true in a dry place like Arizona but it is certainly true down here in Florida.
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#172232 - 12/16/07 10:12 AM Re: 406.8 Receptacles in damp or wet locations [Re: gfretwell]
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The ones I pulled out they fell apart were due to:

*Cheap devices
*Improper installation of box and or cover
*Improper WP cover
*Improper use of WP cover
*Broken cover
*Poor constuction around the box

I live in a rain forest between a sponge and rain clouds in a wetter climate then FLA. Recepts properly installed and properly used typically fair pretty good. The yokes may dis-color but we use de-ox on all of our connections and we effectively ground the device. I personally use good, quality device. When done right, they do pretty good up here.
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#172250 - 12/16/07 06:03 PM Re: 406.8 Receptacles in damp or wet locations [Re: sparkyinak]
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Am I reading this right?
(I think so)

406.8.1 (B)-- Exception. In a car wash or lab area that gets hosed down,you can use the Wet location cover we have been useing for ever?

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#172259 - 12/16/07 09:38 PM Re: 406.8 Receptacles in damp or wet locations [Re: leland]
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Sparky, I agree on #1 on your list and this weather proof receptacle will make that problem go away.
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#173772 - 01/17/08 09:08 PM Re: 406.8 Receptacles in damp or wet locations [Re: gfretwell]
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Who makes a NEMA WD 6-2002 receptacle?
I haven’t seen weather resistant receptacles for this purpose advertised anywhere yet.
Do these come in GFCI receptacles also?

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#173775 - 01/17/08 09:59 PM Re: 406.8 Receptacles in damp or wet locations [Re: KJay]
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There is an article in the IAEI magazine this month about this and the tamper proofs. It doesn't seem to be up on the web site yet but basically they say weather resistants will be available in GFCI and tamper proof (identified with "TR" and "WR" on the face).
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#173797 - 01/18/08 01:15 PM Re: 406.8 Receptacles in damp or wet locations [Re: gfretwell]
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Hi Greg,
Is it just me, or does it seem that manufactures are dragging their feet in making all of these newly required devices available, such as, Combo AFCI cb’s, WR and TR receptacles?
It seems that they knew these were going to be required, in large quantity, long before 01/01/08 came around. I’m having a hard time trying to understand why they did not ramp up R&D and production in advance of a well-known “deadline”, sort of speak. Do they not concern themselves with the fact that construction and renovation projects may be tied up, waiting until they are good and ready to unveil their highly anticipated and long overdue code required offerings?
This seems very irresponsible on their part.

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