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#171095 - 11/19/07 03:41 PM Current carrying conductor
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Where in the code does it say that the grounded conductor of a 2-wire circuit is counted as a current carrying conductor?

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#171099 - 11/19/07 05:44 PM Re: Current carrying conductor [Re: GTE]
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Does it need to? It seems patently obvious that if you get a reading on an amp clamp, it's a current carrying conductor.

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#171107 - 11/19/07 06:51 PM Re: Current carrying conductor [Re: GTE]
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 Originally Posted By: GTE
Where in the code does it say that the grounded conductor of a 2-wire circuit is counted as a current carrying conductor?


Is this in reference to derating for the number of conductors in a conduit? If it is see 310.15(B)4


Edited by Raymfl (11/19/07 06:55 PM)

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#171123 - 11/20/07 05:22 AM Re: Current carrying conductor [Re: Raymfl]
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If the current travels to the load on the phase wire, the only path that it can use to get back to the source is the other conductor.
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#171134 - 11/20/07 10:23 AM Re: Current carrying conductor [Re: ghost307]
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For a 2-wire circuit, the circuit is always going to be unbalanced, and the neutral considered a current carrying conductor per 310.15(B)(4)(a).


Edited by SteveFehr (11/20/07 10:23 AM)

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#171198 - 11/21/07 07:06 PM Re: Current carrying conductor [Re: SteveFehr]
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No "Neutral" in a 2 Wire Circuit.

Same level of Current will flow on both Conductors -
(unless something is terminated incorrectly!..) \:o

The same applies to:
  1. L-N 120 Volt 2 Wire Circuits, from a 1 Phase 3 wire source,
  2. L-N 120 Volt 2 Wire Circuits, from a 3 Phase 4 wire Wye source,
  3. L-N 120 Volt 2 Wire Circuits, from a 3 Phase 4 wire Delta source,
  4. L-N 277 Volt 2 Wire Circuits, from a 3 Phase 4 wire Wye source,
  5. L-L 208 Volt 2 Wire Circuits, from a 1 Phase 3 wire source,
  6. L-L 208 Volt 2 Wire Circuits, from a 3 Phase 3 wire source,
  7. L-L 208 Volt 2 Wire Circuits, from a 3 Phase 4 wire source,
  8. L-L 240 Volt 2 Wire Circuits, from a 1 Phase 3 wire source,
  9. L-L 240 Volt 2 Wire Circuits, from a 3 Phase 3 wire source,
  10. L-L 240 Volt 2 Wire Circuits, from a 3 Phase 4 wire Delta source,
  11. L-L 480 Volt 2 Wire Circuits, from a 3 Phase 3 wire source,
  12. L-L 480 Volt 2 Wire Circuits, from a 3 Phase 4 wire source,
  13. L-L-L 208 Volt, 240 Volt and 480 Volt 3 Wire Circuits, from a 3 Phase 3 or 4 wire source.


Just wanted to make the subject clear.

Scott

BTW, I think it's time to draw up some basic circuit schematics, to demonstrate the flows + levels on 2 wire circuits
(also point out when a Common Grounded Conductor is a "Balanced Neutral", and when it isn't).
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