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#17059 - 11/20/02 07:53 AM Recessed preferences?  
sparky  Offline
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my prefered can is a dual enclosure, i.e., 2 walls & air space bettween element any anything else.

what's yours?

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#17060 - 11/20/02 11:42 AM Re: Recessed preferences?  
ElectricAL  Offline
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 597
Minneapolis, MN USA
There's a certain situational element to keep in mind. . .cabinetry, dropped ceilings, un-insulated finished ceilings. . .but setting those to the side, for insulated ceiling work, I agree with your choice, Sparky. This type of can will provide the greatest selection of trims and bulbs while in contact with insulation, and, in my experience, allow the highest wattage lamps of a given manufacturer's IC line.

Al Hildenbrand

#17061 - 11/20/02 02:32 PM Re: Recessed preferences?  
ZR600  Offline
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Posts: 46
Stevens Point, WI, USA
Juno can lights are the only way to go. I have been using them for over 15 years and have never had a problem with one. they cost more but you get what you pay for..........Brian

#17062 - 11/20/02 02:53 PM Re: Recessed preferences?  
rowdyrudy  Offline
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Posts: 169
Mascoutah, IL USA
Where are you buying Juno? My wife was purchasing manager for one of the largest electrical suppliers in the U.S. She tells me Juno was nearly always cheaper than other brands.

#17063 - 11/20/02 03:06 PM Re: Recessed preferences?  
ZR600  Offline
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Stevens Point, WI, USA
Buying from the local supplier here in Central Wisconsin. For residential I use IC-2 and IC-22 pretty much all the time. IC-22 is around $15 a piece for the housing and $12 for bafle trim............Brian

#17064 - 11/20/02 06:00 PM Re: Recessed preferences?  
Electric Eagle  Offline
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Posts: 914
Alpharetta, GA
We generally use Halo cans. They are almost identical to Juno, but since Home Depot sells Halo, they are much cheaper. We've looked at some cheaper cans, but I refuse to use them. Sometimes Lightolier gets spec'd and we use them, but I don't like them due to problems changing lamps or trims.

#17065 - 11/20/02 06:09 PM Re: Recessed preferences?  
Fred  Offline
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Posts: 449
Straughn, IN 47387
My supply house handles Juno. I pay $8.15 for an IC22 and $15.77 for an IC22-R. Halo cans at Home Depot and Lowes are within pennies of that.

#17066 - 11/20/02 06:18 PM Re: Recessed preferences?  
CTwireman  Offline
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 840
Connecticut, USA
Lightolier "lytening" = junk

Halo = marginal quality. I don't like how the inside of the housing is visible with some of their cheaper trims. I guess that's why they're cheap.

The local supply stores here mostly sell Halo for giveaway prices. Cans are $7, builder's grade baffle trims are $3, bulb for $2.

Progress cans are pretty good. I like their baffle trims better because you can't see into the housing.


#17067 - 11/20/02 06:32 PM Re: Recessed preferences?  
sparky  Offline
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To me it's not necessarily brand name, but configuration.
Given heat in a hole 2 barriers seems safer than these;
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besides, plumbers, alarm guys etc run right over does not 'reserve' the trim space...
These ( IC-Non-IC) i simply do not understand, the instructions require one to 'scrap the label off' for it to assume IC status....
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besides, all insulation is not equal, sme of these IC cans have holes, not too good for blown in insulation.

#17068 - 11/20/02 07:20 PM Re: Recessed preferences?  
Electricmanscott  Offline
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Posts: 1,457
Holden, MA USA
Juno, Halo generally good stuff. Anything that doesn't say Lightolier!

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