The Electrical Contractor Network

ECN Electrical Forum
Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

Books, Tools and Test Equipment for Electrical and Construction Trades

Register Now!

Register Now!

We want your input!

Featured:
   

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

   
Recent Posts
Sprinklered equipment 26-008
by bigpapa
12/02/16 04:24 PM
On Delay Relay with Auto Reset
by Potseal
12/01/16 09:59 AM
Wow, that was close!
by jraef
11/28/16 07:06 PM
Earthquake in New Zeeland
by RODALCO
11/27/16 11:25 PM
Calling all Non-US members!! (Non-US only)
by Tjia1981
11/27/16 06:33 AM
New in the Gallery:
12.5A through 0.75mm˛ flex (just out of curiosity)
Shout Box

Top Posters (30 Days)
gfretwell 14
HotLine1 10
Trumpy 8
Texas_Ranger 8
sparkyinak 7
Who's Online
0 registered (), 198 Guests and 5 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#169259 - 09/30/07 07:34 AM 3 phase inverter/ frequency drive
Raymfl Offline
Member

Registered: 09/20/07
Posts: 12
Loc: Seminole County, FL
Need a 3 phase converter for a 1-1/2hp motor. Was considering using a capacitor or rotary converter when someone here suggested a inverter fequency drive. Checked some on the net and the price looks real good. I don't have any experience with these an would like some input.

Ray

Top
Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades

Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades
Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades
Arc Flash Clothing, Gloves, KneePads, Tool Belts, Pouches, Tool Carriers, etc. etc....

#169263 - 09/30/07 09:37 AM Re: 3 phase inverter/ frequency drive [Re: Raymfl]
JValdes Offline
Member

Registered: 06/03/07
Posts: 308
Loc: South Carolina
Ray, Yes the inverter is your best best. Economical and reliable. You will need 240 volt single phase. They do make 120 volt inverters with 3 phase output, but not for motors over 1hp. Check (www.KB_Controls.com) for 120 volt.
You will most likely not to have to derate. Most inverter manufacturer's require no derate in the smaller HP ranges.
You also eliminate stop/start and overload relay.
Your best price may be at http://www.automationdirect.com.

If your situation is just to run the motor at full speed then you will only have to program for the quick start.
Basic installation and neccessary program settings.

Make sure you connect it for single phase. Some require a jumper for the spare terminal. Read the manual!

Top
#169265 - 09/30/07 11:22 AM Re: 3 phase inverter/ frequency drive [Re: JValdes]
wire_twister Offline
Member

Registered: 07/25/07
Posts: 265
Loc: Georgia USA
I have installed several units from automation direct, they are good units, come with good instructions and are reasonably compact. Programing is a breeze if you read the manual, best to go thru and decide on all the parameters first, then get into programing. The drives I installed are the GS2 series, I liked them the customer loves them.
_________________________
Jimmy

Life is tough, Life is tougher when you are stupid

Top
#169266 - 09/30/07 12:02 PM Re: 3 phase inverter/ frequency drive [Re: wire_twister]
Raymfl Offline
Member

Registered: 09/20/07
Posts: 12
Loc: Seminole County, FL
Are the ones on automationdirect Hitachi? Can't beat the application and price with anything else for small motors. They are similar in operation to my PWM speed controllers I use for my electric rc airplane motors.

Thanks for the info. Will definately order one.

Ray

Top
#169270 - 09/30/07 03:31 PM Re: 3 phase inverter/ frequency drive [Re: Raymfl]
wire_twister Offline
Member

Registered: 07/25/07
Posts: 265
Loc: Georgia USA
not shure who makes them, just have automation direct on them.
_________________________
Jimmy

Life is tough, Life is tougher when you are stupid

Top
#169302 - 10/01/07 08:03 AM Re: 3 phase inverter/ frequency drive [Re: wire_twister]
JValdes Offline
Member

Registered: 06/03/07
Posts: 308
Loc: South Carolina
Automation direct name brands the low cost drive so I am not sure who makes them either.
I can usually tell by looking at one, which I will do today.

Great prices aren't they. For your application would it matter that much who built the control?

All of them are similar, with the exception of programming. Some are real easy and some are so detailed (AB) youwould need help.

Yes, they are "pulse width modulation" based

Top
#169303 - 10/01/07 08:23 AM Re: 3 phase inverter/ frequency drive [Re: JValdes]
JValdes Offline
Member

Registered: 06/03/07
Posts: 308
Loc: South Carolina
Just checked the web site. Still not sure who built it.
You will have to go to the 2HP. 1.5 not available.


Is your motor new? Be careful if you have an older motor. It may not last long with the drive.
The new motors "most" have special magnet wire for inverter duty. They also have better bearings and sometimes insulated bearings.


Edited by JValdes (10/01/07 08:25 AM)

Top



ECN Electrical Forums - sponsored by Electrical Contractor Network - Electrical and Code Related Discussion for Electrical Contractors, Electricians, Inspectors, Instructors, Engineers and other related Professionals