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#16906 - 11/18/02 03:04 PM smaller/thinner j-box?
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I am trying to find a j-box with a 110 outlet recepticle which is smaller than the standard hardware store j-box. The dimension that I am most concerned with is the width of the box. Looking for something like 1 1/2" ... or anything less than standard. It must be UL rated. Does anyone know of the existence of something like this?
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#16907 - 11/18/02 04:03 PM Re: smaller/thinner j-box?
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The smallest is 1 1/2" deep. I am not sure what you are using this for? 110volt door switches come with their own very small jbox, but it is specifically designed for the door switch.
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#16908 - 11/18/02 04:10 PM Re: smaller/thinner j-box?
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See 314.24 in the 2002 NEC.
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#16909 - 11/18/02 04:19 PM Re: smaller/thinner j-box?
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Maiya,
what purpose would require a 1 1/2" width?
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#16910 - 11/18/02 05:54 PM Re: smaller/thinner j-box?
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What about Wiremold or Panduit components?
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#16911 - 11/21/02 11:02 AM Re: smaller/thinner j-box?
Maiya Offline
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this is the situation. it is needed for a retail store application. basically we are installing 42" flat screen monitors into sheet metal covers that consequentially are mounted to a frame structure. the monitor cover needs to have a j-box in it for the monitor to plug into... the monitor cannot be hardwired into the power supply running through the frame due to code restrictions, as well as possible voiding of the monitor manufacturer's warranty. the fit between monitor and monitor cover needs to be as tight as possible inorder to maintain a sleek modern look(the whole point of the flat screen). because the smallest j-box i have seen is 2.5" wide, the monitor cover must stick out this much behind the back of the monitor. i am hoping to find something smaller. I have contacted wiremold, about their plugmold system, but it can not be used as an interior (inside the wall) type of application. what are the 1 1/2" wide door switches. I appologize, I am not an electrician, and have limited knowledge with this kind of stuff... what is 314.24 in NEC?
thanks for your help.
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#16912 - 11/21/02 12:52 PM Re: smaller/thinner j-box?
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For special uses there are special sockets.
http://www.schurterinc.com/pdf/usa/nema.pdf

I have no idea if these are legal to install, but UL has listed them and there must be some use for them
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#16913 - 11/21/02 01:10 PM Re: smaller/thinner j-box?
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Those sockets are usually for panel mounting....I think the Wiremold outlet strip raceways use those.

Is it code-approved to integrate one of those outlets strips into a frame - bolting it on?

I've seen free-standing equipment racks for computers with one of those strips going up one corner. It is then terminated using a 14 or 12-gauge SJT cord.

The one I saw used an L5-15 cord cap so it wouldn't get kicked out of the socket(the rack held computer server or router equipment here at work.)

Look at this pdf file....scroll down, it's around page three.
http://www.wiremold.com/shared_content/pdf/ED795.pdf
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#16914 - 11/21/02 05:48 PM Re: smaller/thinner j-box?
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314.24 covers the depth of outlet boxes.


[This message has been edited by Joe Tedesco (edited 11-22-2002).]
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#16915 - 11/21/02 05:48 PM Re: smaller/thinner j-box?
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opps!

[This message has been edited by Joe Tedesco (edited 11-22-2002).]
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