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#16834 - 11/16/02 10:54 PM meter seal  
mj  Offline
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in my area, we can not break a seal on the meter, only power co employee can remove the seal, $1000 fine. what about your area?


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#16835 - 11/16/02 11:30 PM Re: meter seal  
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mj,
I take it that you are a licenced Electrician,in the US.
Over here in New Zealand or at least the area of the South Island that I work in,
what normally happens, is that you ring you local Electrical Inspector or the Control Centre, to get permission to break the seal.
This is normally given quite freely, provided you give them your registration number(and in my case, a clearance number).
Most of our work is done by Radio Telephone.
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#16836 - 11/17/02 12:02 AM Re: meter seal  
harold endean  Offline
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In NJ, you are not suppose to break the seal unless you get the power company's OK. Then they might also ask you fill a form making you responsible for the job. (And the liability.)


#16837 - 11/17/02 07:22 AM Re: meter seal  
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What the utilities may tell you and what your actual State Laws are may vary....

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ยง 3784. Interfering with meters

A person, other than an authorized agent or employee acting for the owner, manufacturer or operator thereof, who maliciously opens, closes, breaks into or in any manner adjusts or interferes with a meter, or other regulating or measuring device or appliance attached to or connected with wires, pipe lines, mains, service pipes or house pipes owned or used by a manufacturer or furnisher of electricity, gas, or water shall be imprisoned not more than three months or fined not more than $100.00, or both.


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#16838 - 11/17/02 09:04 AM Re: meter seal  
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Out here in SoCA, our resi meters have a "super ring" with a keyed locking device. (No pic, my camera blew up). You call SCE or LADWP, etc., and they send someone out to unlock it for you. Response time is usually only an hour or 2, unless an emergency, in which case they're right there.
To bypass this, you'd have to drill out the lock, and then you'd be subject to tampering law (Hardly worth it)


#16839 - 11/17/02 12:14 PM Re: meter seal  
Bjarney  Offline
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West-Southern Inner-Northeast ...
For "problem" meters, there's stuff like http://www.inner-tite.com/rhino.html




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#16840 - 11/17/02 02:43 PM Re: meter seal  
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We cut meter seals as a matter of routine when we need to cut the power for the service entrance. We always call the power company after to let them know the meter needs to be resealed


#16841 - 11/17/02 05:11 PM Re: meter seal  
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Bjarney,
Yup, that's the one.
They're a default setting down here!!


#16842 - 11/17/02 06:59 PM Re: meter seal  
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The poco here dictates that i shall not pull meters, cut or rebug service entrance.

But these are thier bylaws, and they know it because i'll not have thier beuracracy hold me up from making a living and do as i'm hired to do.

I could possibly think differently if in fact the poco owned any of the service laterals or OH drops here...not so...

If you think about it, we could cough up some 70E stuff that would have you deenergize via pulling a meter for safety reasons.
All in all if the poco won't trust a field sparky to do this, i have no ear to thier concerns either.

As to the so-called 'emergency response' here, there is none inside of 40 minutes or so.

Apparently past history saw the line foreman take the bucket truck home, not so anymore.

They have to get up, get dressed, etc, go to the shop, do all that is dictated ( punch in, truck checks..)by the poco to respond.

40+ minutes is an eternity in some situations....trust me.


#16843 - 11/17/02 08:19 PM Re: meter seal  
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Alpharetta, GA
We aren't suposed to cut the tag off, but we do it all the time. In many cases it could be more dangerous not to remove the meter if there is a problem that needs immediate attention. I've never been confronted about it and I've never notified anyone, but whenever I do, my intentions are clear and not malicious.


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