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#161415 - 04/02/07 07:12 PM 'Artistic' Conduit Run
Webmaster Offline


Registered: 10/07/00
Posts: 3142
Loc: NY, USA
Saw this in the bathroom at a Coffee House, it brings up an interesting question, if something is obviously done for "artistic" purposes should minor violations, that are not a blatent hazard, be aproved? If you were an AHJ and an EC came up to you and asked if they could do this would you let them (critiscism of artistic judgement not withstanding?

sorry about the poor picture resolution, I took the pic with my girlfriends camera phone, wich led to a humerous conversation:
"can I use your phone?"
*goes to bathroom w/ phone*
"who'd you call?"
"I took a picture"
"in the bathroom? WHAT did you take a picture of???? ..... wait, it was something electrical wasn't it?"
methinks I'm getting a wee bit too predictable :biggrin:

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#161442 - 04/03/07 04:12 AM Re: 'Artistic' Conduit Run [Re: Webmaster]
pauluk Offline

Registered: 08/11/01
Posts: 7693
Loc: Norfolk, England
What's this connecting to? Seems odd even if for artistic purposes!

"in the bathroom? WHAT did you take a picture of???? ..... wait, it was something electrical wasn't it?"

Good job she obviously knows you very well! \:D

#161469 - 04/03/07 09:30 AM Re: 'Artistic' Conduit Run [Re: pauluk]
SteveFehr Offline

Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1192
Loc: Chesapeake, VA
Eh, sure, it may exceed 360 by a *small* bit, but if I were the AHJ, I'd probably grant an exception. You have to worry about cable pulling damage on something like that, though. They'd practically have to bend it with the wire already installed!

#161518 - 04/03/07 04:48 PM Re: 'Artistic' Conduit Run [Re: SteveFehr]
n1ist Offline

Registered: 02/13/02
Posts: 176
Loc: Malden MA
I guess that conduit is for AC and the straight ones are for DC :-)

#161622 - 04/05/07 07:31 AM Re: 'Artistic' Conduit Run [Re: n1ist]
sstrick Offline
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Registered: 12/21/04
Posts: 6
Loc: Independence, MO USA
Is that flex or EMT? I'm guessing someone had a scrap piece of flex and didn't want to measure/cut it to proper length. So they just snaked it to fit.

#161637 - 04/05/07 04:12 PM Re: 'Artistic' Conduit Run [Re: sstrick]
canuck Offline

Registered: 07/15/06
Posts: 27
Loc: Canada
Artistic? no Ridiculous? yes

Why not just a straight run and paint the pipe if it is too 'ugly'? I guess they were out of conduit and only had the apprentice's practice pipe. \:\)

#161650 - 04/05/07 08:45 PM Re: 'Artistic' Conduit Run [Re: canuck]
ausador Offline

Registered: 03/26/07
Posts: 49
Loc: Central Florida
In this case it solely for artistic/appearence reasons and appears to be a very short run. I'm guessing since it isn't in the photo but I'd bet there is a j-box at the end of the "straight" section of the run. (just out of the photo to the left upper corner)

Yeah I would give it a pass on the 360 degree bend rule unless I determined that it was at the end of a homerun with no junction within 20' or so.....

#161651 - 04/05/07 08:50 PM Re: 'Artistic' Conduit Run [Re: sstrick]
Elviscat Offline

Registered: 08/13/05
Posts: 214
Loc: Seattle Washington USA
it's EMT, and it runs out of the room on both ends.

#161712 - 04/06/07 06:47 PM Re: 'Artistic' Conduit Run [Re: Webmaster]
Steve Miller Offline

Registered: 08/30/01
Posts: 322
Loc: Loudoun Cty, VA
Many years ago when I was teaching vocational electricity at a high school we would teach them to bend EMT like this: Take a 1900 box and 1 stick of 1/2" EMT; place the box flat on the floor; exit the box on the left, bend a double 90 (up in the air) and end up going to the right; bend a 90 to head up; then bend a double 90 and enter the box from the top. And make the length correct so you can use fittings on the 2 ends without cutting the pipe. We wasted a lot of pipe but they usually got it.
I may have had some goof offs, but they coould bend pipe when they left.

#162387 - 04/18/07 02:07 PM Re: 'Artistic' Conduit Run [Re: Steve Miller]
cubby964 Offline

Registered: 10/18/02
Posts: 69
Loc: USA
Looks like a fish tape straightener left over from construction.


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