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#158626 - 07/16/06 11:20 AM extra charges
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I'm curious to see what others are doing as for billing for extra items which you wouldn't normally itemize on the bill to the customer. For instance, do you add a percentage to cover small things like staples, wood screws, wire connectors, etc? Or do you bill them out separately, or roll them into your markup? What about consumables like saw blades, grinding disks, drill bits, etc? How about a fuel surcharge?

What I've been doing is getting a rough idea of small stuff we've used and charge it separately under "misc. supplies". Any feedback would be appreciated.
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#158627 - 07/16/06 02:03 PM Re: extra charges
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In part, it depends upon the nature of your business, and the terms of the agreement you have with the customer.

If I'm doing work T&M, I will have a figure on my worksheet for "shop supplies."

Distant jobs will have a 'travel charge,' stipulated in advance.
Charges for rentals, subbing to other trades, etc., will be spelled out in most cases.

Communication, and trust, is critical. It is too easy to undermine a relationship by presenting a bill far in excess of what the customer is expecting. I need only think back to the $29 tire that cost me $75.... I haven't been back there since (even though other shops were selling similar tires for $75, at last they didn't post a 'low' price!)
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#158628 - 07/16/06 11:55 PM Re: extra charges
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I usually include something for wire nuts, straps, connectors, couplings, screws, etc. Depending on the job, it's usually anywhere from $5 to $50.

Before the days of $1,000/lb copper, wire used to get lumped in there - now it's generally a line item.
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#158629 - 07/25/06 06:32 PM Re: extra charges
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Loc: Long Island, New York
Here is a general bidding rule ive used for things you cant plug into the bid by quanities because its just not practicle like nuts, bolts, washers, blades, tool maintenence and usage, tape, pulling lube, broken snake heads during pulls,and non productive labor (walk throughs, job meetings, etc.. try 2.5% to 3% of every gross estimate and compare it to your actual cost on a couple of jobs and let me know what you think. there isnt a profit in that percentage but it covers your cost pretty good.
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