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#15422 - 10/17/02 07:09 PM I'm tired of seeing installations like this
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Branch circuit to a residential cooktop

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#15423 - 10/17/02 07:49 PM Re: I'm tired of seeing installations like this
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Oh man, I've got a hornet's nest of an entire house that looks like this garbage coming up next week. I'll get pix. A "rescue job" renov and botched rewire... Forgot my camera when I was there yesterday, they had #14 120V circuits on 2 pole 30A CBs, the main bus has has several shorts (burned, pitted, carbon, etc...) from errant and too short EGC's, a 2" LB full of NM cable, and that's some of the errors in the new servcie just to start... Plus, the guy has the attitude that he's doing me the favor of giving me work! And had the gaul to complain of the price! Auuuugh!

Oh... stop me... A pix is worth 1000 words and I'll have some Monday!

I can relate Donnie! Oh boy, can I relate!

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#15424 - 10/17/02 08:46 PM Re: I'm tired of seeing installations like this
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the infamous 'flyin splice' , alive & well .....

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#15425 - 10/17/02 11:37 PM Re: I'm tired of seeing installations like this
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Just laziness, isn't it.
People that do work to these standards,
should be lined up against a wall and shot,as
they never have to fix them up, it's normally someone else, later on in the life of the installation.
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#15426 - 10/18/02 04:48 AM Re: I'm tired of seeing installations like this
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It looks like captire coming out of the wall. Did they cut the plug off and wire it direct?

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#15427 - 10/18/02 06:49 AM Re: I'm tired of seeing installations like this
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Registered: 05/25/01
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This shelf was crammed full of metal pans and the flex was laying on top of them

jdevlin....The wire is 10-2 Type NM on a 2p30 amp breaker.Pretty sure the same thing exists behind the built-in oven.
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#15428 - 10/18/02 07:39 AM Re: I'm tired of seeing installations like this
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Replace the BX with Romex and the wirenuts with British-type "choc block" connectors, and it would look all too familiar.....

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#15429 - 10/18/02 07:49 AM Re: I'm tired of seeing installations like this
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Registered: 10/14/02
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Loc: Puyallup, WA, USA
I see a lot of these. It's usually from a DIY'er doing some rewire or new installation based on the advice from the orange vest guys. I know ya'll don't like those orange vest guys, but they do help my income.

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#15430 - 10/18/02 10:55 AM Re: I'm tired of seeing installations like this
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Registered: 05/25/01
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Loc: Magnolia,.Texas U.S.A.
Existing installation.........
Can a box be added to contain the splices,or If we work on it does the circuit have to be replaced w/4wire? What if a new cooktop is being installed at existing location?
My take on this is that if the circuit needed to be relocated,such as in a remodel,a new 4 wire is required.I'm just questioning whether this requirement applies to replacing appliances.
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#15431 - 10/18/02 12:27 PM Re: I'm tired of seeing installations like this
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'Another "Suck-Cessfull" Installation By Your Friendly Neighborhood EE - Lekk - Trishun'

At least there's a glass bowl to catch water as it runs back down the "Drip-Loop", which keeps the flying splices from being submersed in water / oil / booze / etc.

Also the glass bowl can double as an insulated disconnect device - just in case someone gets caught in a ground fault, or in the slim possibility of a fault at the exposed Conductors.

BTW, all except the stuff at the top are extreme jokes. The top part is justified by the spelling - making it "Dumber Than Dirt"

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