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#147250 - 05/13/02 10:20 PM Escalator speeds up and injures several people.
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How did (does) this happen?

Any theories out there?
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#147251 - 05/14/02 05:26 AM Re: Escalator speeds up and injures several people.
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See Article 620, the subject of acceleration and speed is defined in 620.2, so I would suspect some sort of malfunction in the control system.
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#147252 - 05/14/02 07:11 AM Re: Escalator speeds up and injures several people.
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Let me rephrase that:

What kind of idiot would design a people mover that would go 3x faster than needed suddenly without warning in the first place?

I guess what I'm after is, did it suddenly go from say 120V to 277V (impossible, I know) and briefly speed up before burning the motor up, or is some controller inadvertantly design to allow just such an occurance...

I'm just having a hard time imagining a 60 Hz system suddenly becoming a 180Hz system, and on just one machine, I'm obviously missing something. Can motor windings fail in such a way to cause this type of symptom?

Am I being stupid? Am I the only one that sees the absurdity here?

I'll shut up now...

[This message has been edited by sparky66wv (edited 05-14-2002).]
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#147253 - 05/14/02 08:45 AM Re: Escalator speeds up and injures several people.
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I would guess that some sort of AC or DC Drive was feeding the motor. Maybe there is a current feedback signal that maintains steady speed while under varying loads. This control system may have been corrupted somehow.

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#147254 - 05/14/02 02:15 PM Re: Escalator speeds up and injures several people.
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Most likely an electronic servo drive system, and they either lost speed feedback or a shunt field on a DC drive. Either failure SHOULD have tripped a safety interlock on the drive system, rather than letting the motor speed "shoot for the moon".

Why they would have such a sophisticated drive system (with all the attendant problems) where a simple start/stop/reverse would seem enough is another question entirely....

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#147255 - 05/14/02 05:59 PM Re: Escalator speeds up and injures several people.
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OK, Wow I had no idea they were so complex...

I figured just a constant speed motor sized for maximum load...

Maybe I'm too simple minded...
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