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#141886 - 11/08/04 04:51 AM Electricity price increase
pauluk Offline
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Registered: 08/11/01
Posts: 7693
Loc: Norfolk, England
I've just received a notice from PowerGen that my rates will increase later this month.

I suppose it's about time, as prices haven't increased here for several years, but the daytime rate seems to have taken a sharp rise.

Current pricing:
Day 6.75p. per kWh
Night 2.87p. per kWh

New rates:
Day 10.49p. for first 200 units per quarter,
then 8.21p. per kWh
Night 3.13p. per kWh.

All plus Voracious Administration Tax at 5%.

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#141887 - 11/09/04 12:23 PM Re: Electricity price increase
uksparky Offline
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Registered: 07/06/04
Posts: 199
Loc: UK
Yes, my last bill contained those changes already...

As you say; long time no rise, but it doesn't hurt any less!!
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#141888 - 11/10/04 03:17 AM Re: Electricity price increase
pauluk Offline
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Registered: 08/11/01
Posts: 7693
Loc: Norfolk, England
Yeah, we never like the cost of anything going up, but I can accept this one.

It's the council tax that I'm not looking forward to when everything comes up for re-evaluation next year. (That's the current British version of property tax on real estate for non-U.K. members, although it has a few twists.)

As a resident of Norfolk, I'm only too aware the following:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/3944025.stm

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#141889 - 11/10/04 05:11 PM Re: Electricity price increase
uksparky Offline
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Registered: 07/06/04
Posts: 199
Loc: UK
Youch. That stings...

Don't know what your band/charge is but I pay £1476.00 on an E plate this year.... I forget what my bro said he pays ( Salhouse ), but remember him being less than pleased!
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#141890 - 11/12/04 02:36 PM Re: Electricity price increase
pauluk Offline
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Registered: 08/11/01
Posts: 7693
Loc: Norfolk, England
I'm in the North Norfolk District Council , band A, full charge for the 2004/2005 year is £797.92.

I get the 25% discount for living alone, but virrually all we get here for the money is refuse collection. There are no street lights, the roads are completely lacking in drainage, edges not kept trimmed, etc.

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#141891 - 08/20/05 05:54 AM Re: Electricity price increase
pauluk Offline
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Registered: 08/11/01
Posts: 7693
Loc: Norfolk, England
We're now set for another electricity price rise

These were the rates which came into force for my power last November:

 Quote:

Day 10.49p. for first 200 units per quarter,
then 8.21p. per kWh
Night 3.13p. per kWh.


(What I did forget to mention before was that they removed the standing charge of about £9 per quarter, which offset the increases a little.)


I've just received this quarter's bill with a letter announcing new rates:

Day 11.25p for first 200 units per quarter
then 8.80p per kWh.
Night 3.45p per kwH.

Plus 5% VAT.



[This message has been edited by pauluk (edited 08-20-2005).]

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#141892 - 08/20/05 03:53 PM Re: Electricity price increase
Alan Belson Offline
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Registered: 03/23/05
Posts: 1801
Loc: Mayenne N. France
My latest electrickery bill. Since we pay monthly, this is a years total;

2689kwh at 0.0450 Euro/kwh, = £0.032/ kwh
3797kwh at 0.0765 Euro/kwh = £0.054/ kwh
Looks good, dunnit?

But, ( there is always a but), in addition, local tax E61.90
plus E29.19 contribution to 'public service works'= tax. Plus TVA @ 19.6%(!) = E111.34
Note TVA has been levied on the bloody taxes as well!
Total "smoke and mirrors" = E202.43

Total bill E847.19 = £596.61

In UK I would have paid;
11.25p per first 800kwh =£90.00
8.8p for remaining 2997kwh =£263.73
3.45p for 2689 kwh cheap rate =£92.77
Total £468.82 inc 5% VAT

Yours is over a hundred quid cheaper!

Alan
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#141893 - 08/20/05 11:37 PM Re: Electricity price increase
Trumpy Offline

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Registered: 07/05/02
Posts: 8540
Loc: SI,New Zealand
Good call there Paul,
It gave me cause to have a look at my own power account.
I usually pay mine on-line these days, it saves getting money out of the bank (which you are charged for) and writing cheques (which also attract a fee).
Current kWh charges here are:
  • 24 Hour Un-controlled = 20.24c/kWh
  • Controlled (Night-Rate)= 14.4c/kWh
  • Fixed Charge per kWh= 35.29c
  • EC Levy-No Discount= 0.13c

The last part is the new Electricity Commission that the Goverment set up to manage our power use.
Can't say that it has done any good, just another tax on us.
I will also say that I get a 30% rebate on my power account, because I work for the local Power Board.
With prices like this, it all helps.
We were all fooled into having all-Electric houses here not that long ago.
I'm not complaining though, when summer turns up here, I'll be using the Air Conditioning flat out!
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#141894 - 08/21/05 02:15 PM Re: Electricity price increase
Alan Belson Offline
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Registered: 03/23/05
Posts: 1801
Loc: Mayenne N. France
Blooming Ada Mike, I just did a few sums and I make that over a NZ$1000,( £390 ), for my consumption of electricity, and over NZ$2000 (£780) for the charges on top! Am I getting something askew?

Mind you, in Britain you'd be paying income tax on that 30% discount, as a "benefit in kind"!

Alan
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#141895 - 08/23/05 10:58 PM Re: Electricity price increase
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Registered: 07/05/02
Posts: 8540
Loc: SI,New Zealand
Alan,
Don't fret too much yet.
My power account never gets above NZ$46/month and that is without the discount.
Being a single person I don't use a lot of electricity and add to that the fact that I'm now working Night-shift, I use even less.
I can bask in the Air-Conditioned (or should I say Temperature-controlled) Control-room at work.
Only thing that I spend electricity on is the odd roast meal (oh and my water heating)and using the microwave to heat up small things.
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