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#126379 - 12/11/05 06:35 PM a few ?'s that need to be answered
larryep Offline

Registered: 12/11/05
Posts: 11
Loc: st.louis
hello all forum users.

I am finishing a basement and need to have it to code for inspection. there are a few question that i need answered. the framed bedroom i have eight outlets 2 of which are on the ceiling (possible mounted tv) thesE i know need BRAF type circuit breakers.on a seperate circuit i have 2 luminaries each controled by a switch. DO THESE LIGHTS NEED TO BE ON A ARC FAULT BREAKER? on a 3rd circuit where a work light was in middle of framed bedroom. I switched out the box with one rated for the weight of a fan. DOES THIS FAN AND REST OF CIRCUT UPSTAIRS NEED TO BE ON A ARC FAULT ALSO?

2. i have 9 linear ft. of counter space in a kitchenette, forming a right angle with a bar sink in middle of right angle. there is frig under counter with dedicated 15 amp on 14/3 and a outlet within the 6 foot rule, 12 inches off of ground, also on a dedicated 15 amp from that 14/3. DO I STILL NEED 2 20 AMP CIRCUITS ABOVE COUNTER? DO BOTH DEDICATED 15 AMP CIRCUITS NEED GFI'S? DOES THAT WORK WITH 14/3?

3. in a utility room where the furnace and hot water tank live i have a framed wall on one side and a concrete wall on the other. on the concrete wall is the electrical panal. a deicated 20 amp outlet is directly below panal. i came out of panal with emt conduit and 3 feet to the right of panal i installed a metal one gang. 3 feet above this i installed a 2nd metal single gang. from orginal metal box i continued emt 9 feet into framed wall for a full circuit in the gameroom.DO THESE 2 BOXES IN UTILITY ROOM NEED TO BE ON A 20 AMP CIRCUIT? DO I ALSO NEED GFI PROTECTION FOR THE 2?
also in the utility room I have a framed wall. (which on the other side is a bathroom) 2 outlets are on this wall in utility room. DO THEY NEED TO BE A 20 AMP CIRCUIT? DO ALL OUTLETS IN UTILITY ROOM NEED TO BE GFI PROTECTED?

4.I Have 5 14/2NM WIRE in a round ceiling box that can only handle 10 14 g. wires. IS THIS A VIOLATION? the largest round box i have found is carlon capable of 12 14g wires. IS THERE A LARGER BOX OR DO I NEED TO DIVIDE THE BOX UP? DO PIGTAILS COUNT AS A WIRE WHEN ADDING UP WIRES?

any help would be very thankful.

#126380 - 12/11/05 07:44 PM Re: a few ?'s that need to be answered
sierra electrician Offline

Registered: 02/12/05
Posts: 220
Loc: North Fork, CA USA
Sounds like your in deep. Kinda late for these questions.

#126381 - 12/11/05 07:55 PM Re: a few ?'s that need to be answered
Electric Eagle Offline

Registered: 04/20/02
Posts: 928
Loc: Alpharetta, GA
Are you an electrical engineer? You seem to know just enough about electrical wiring to write a book on it, but not to use it in a practical manner.

The only question that can be answered without seeing the job is that everything in a bedroom needs to be on an arc fault.

#126382 - 12/11/05 08:04 PM Re: a few ?'s that need to be answered
larryep Offline

Registered: 12/11/05
Posts: 11
Loc: st.louis
i am not an electrical engineer. just learning the trade for inspection of the basement that is being built. i have pride maybe to much.i am willing to correct anywrong doings. these are the last thngs that are of question. with the walls open it is very easy to correct. just need a little guidance.

#126383 - 12/11/05 08:07 PM Re: a few ?'s that need to be answered
e57 Offline

Registered: 05/27/03
Posts: 2837
Loc: S.F.,CA USA
Any Journeyman would know the answers to all of these questions....
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"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason

#126384 - 12/11/05 08:14 PM Re: a few ?'s that need to be answered
larryep Offline

Registered: 12/11/05
Posts: 11
Loc: st.louis
i am not a journeyman. just a man working on his basement.

#126385 - 12/11/05 08:15 PM Re: a few ?'s that need to be answered
LoneGunman Offline

Registered: 10/02/05
Posts: 141
Loc: Florida
*grabs popcorn

#126386 - 12/11/05 08:24 PM Re: a few ?'s that need to be answered
Tiger Offline

Registered: 05/04/05
Posts: 714
Loc: Crystal Lake, IL USA
This is a forum for electrical contractors, inspectors, line workers, low-voltage contractors and electrical engineers. It could be deadly for you if you misunderstood our advice.

The general feeling here is that electrical installations aren't for do-it-yourselfers. Any questions you have should be directed to your building department-electrical inspector (hopefully you got a permit for this).


#126387 - 12/11/05 08:29 PM Re: a few ?'s that need to be answered
larryep Offline

Registered: 12/11/05
Posts: 11
Loc: st.louis
sorry for the questions you are right i wiil go to them with questions tommoroow. I thought i can get some insight on some alterative approaches to said ?'s.


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