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#125962 - 09/17/03 03:36 PM Tenant Does His Own Electrical Work!
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The tenant in this rental house installed his own breaker assembly on the exterior of the original box when he couldn't find replacement breakers!
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#125963 - 09/17/03 03:45 PM Re: Tenant Does His Own Electrical Work!
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And then he spray-painted it so it would "blend in with the wall", right?


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#125964 - 09/17/03 04:29 PM Re: Tenant Does His Own Electrical Work!
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Loc: Shinnston, WV USA
Do my eyes deceive me, or are those Zinsco breakers? I haven't seen those since I left California.

And people wonder why inspectors get writers cramp.
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#125965 - 09/17/03 04:54 PM Re: Tenant Does His Own Electrical Work!
Bill Addiss Offline
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This is Bad.

Could a person who installs something like this be held criminally liable if someone were to get seriously hurt or die from contact with it?

Bill

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#125966 - 09/17/03 05:07 PM Re: Tenant Does His Own Electrical Work!
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Registered: 11/24/02
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Loc: young harris georgia usa
That looks like the interior from a breaker panel fastened to the wall.

I'm sure an EC in most places would be standing tall before the man for this.

A diy'er should be held accountable also.

Russell

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#125967 - 09/17/03 05:53 PM Re: Tenant Does His Own Electrical Work!
Bill Addiss Offline
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Russell,

I figured an EC could be held responsible, but do you think a DIYer could? Or could ignorance be a saving grace as far as that goes?

Bill

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#125968 - 09/17/03 07:13 PM Re: Tenant Does His Own Electrical Work!
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Loc: Sedalia,MO, USA
I'm not sure that ignorance and electrical work belong together. And I agree with Russel that it is no excuse.

[This message has been edited by spkjpr (edited 09-17-2003).]

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#125969 - 09/17/03 07:40 PM Re: Tenant Does His Own Electrical Work!
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It would seem to me that a homeowner or diy could be held responsible especially if there was an injury or fire from this.

I have heard that some insurance co's will either refuse to pay or pay and prosecute the person(s) that did something like this.

I'm far from a lawyer,but couldn't you call this reckless endangerment?

I don't have any facts to back this up,but imho,if someone were hurt or killed,it would really change from a legal perspective.

Russell

[This message has been edited by ga.sparky56 (edited 09-17-2003).]

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#125970 - 09/17/03 07:52 PM Re: Tenant Does His Own Electrical Work!
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I'm not sure that ignorance and electrical work belong together
Now that's an understatement!


Bill

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#125971 - 09/18/03 04:15 AM Re: Tenant Does His Own Electrical Work!
Redsy Offline
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Tom,

Look like Zinsco to me.
Didn't they have push-in / tab-release terminals?

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