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#125556 - 11/18/03 04:15 AM Listed Soup Warmer on Every Deck!
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I just had to take a look in the nighttime to see if the fixtures (over 60) on the hotel decks would actually be illuminated!

Sure enough they were!

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#125557 - 11/18/03 04:26 AM Re: Listed Soup Warmer on Every Deck!
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Hot water OUTSIDE of every room?

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#125558 - 11/18/03 07:25 AM Re: Listed Soup Warmer on Every Deck!
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I'll bet that's the only hope for getting 120V lamps to last on 127V circuits in coastal Mexican resorts. ;-)

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#125559 - 11/18/03 04:28 PM Re: Listed Soup Warmer on Every Deck!
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Is this a Hydro-Electric Light?

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#125560 - 11/18/03 05:41 PM Re: Listed Soup Warmer on Every Deck!
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I've seen this happen with those out-door (presumably water-resistant) fixtures -- the ones that look like a jelly jar encased in a cast aluminium case that screws to the fixture base.

I saw one in use under a sidewalk shed. It was installed horizontally. The "jelly jar" was half-full of water with the burning bulb half-submerged into the water, up to the lampholder -- the level of the water was high enough that it was going INTO the socket!!!

How come it doesn't manage to short out like this???

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#125561 - 11/18/03 06:41 PM Re: Listed Soup Warmer on Every Deck!
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I guess the drain hole is plugged.
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#125562 - 11/18/03 06:43 PM Re: Listed Soup Warmer on Every Deck!
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Here's a similar fixture that supports your comments. The lighting under a temporary structure used during construction, had other lights and they were on the line an were illuminated.

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#125563 - 11/18/03 07:53 PM Re: Listed Soup Warmer on Every Deck!
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BINGO JOE!!!

That's EXACTLY the setup I was writing about.

Where/how does the water enter? Through the holes in the box or is the cage & jar not fully tightened?

Yours looks like it's full to the brim!!

I thought these were supposed to be water-tight? I guess it doesn't matter how many gaskets the manufacturer includes....if the installer doesn't know what he/she's doing.... :eyeroll:

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#125564 - 11/19/03 05:44 AM Re: Listed Soup Warmer on Every Deck!
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I think the water only goes up to the bottom horizontal rail of the gasket. A scary setup anyway. Reminds me of the story my latin teacher once told me. Her bathroom light went out and blew the fuse (it was probably some kind of pearl glass shade). She just thought "well, sometimes light bulbs take the fuse when they blow, ok." When she took down the shade she wondered why on earth it could be that heavy. Guess what, it was more than half-full of water. A pipe leak in the bathroom above no one had noticed before.

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#125565 - 11/19/03 09:02 AM Re: Listed Soup Warmer on Every Deck!
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It should be said that the “globe” fixture was mis-specified and mis-installed. The gasketed vaportight fixture could have been mis-installed with sloppy assembly, or could be the result of poor maintenance where a gasket was not replaced at, say, relamping.

The first fixture should not have made it through inspection.

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