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#125443 - 03/29/05 02:28 AM another generator
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I have a 4000 watt colman gen that we use for power outages that happen about once every 3-4 yrs usually when ice-snow takes down some trees.
Anyway I cob it into the furnace just to heat the house, then into the oil fired water heater for showers and so on to the fridg-freezer.
My plan is to put a recepticle in the power line of the water heater and furnace between the on-off switch and the main juction boxes of the units, when the power goes off, i just turn off the switches and plug into the recepticles with a heavy duty cord-14ga. that will have a male plug on each end.
Does anyone know if it is against any codes to have a recepticle in the lines?. My house does not have to be inspected.
I know the way they are supposed to be wired into the house, but i'm not going to go that route for what little we need ele.

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#125444 - 03/29/05 03:05 AM Re: another generator
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" I know the way they are supposed to be wired into the house, but i'm not going to go that route for what little we need ele."

Enough said.
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#125445 - 03/29/05 03:19 AM Re: another generator
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if it's against any NEC, i would take it out if i sold the house, i wouldn't want to confuze the next owner..

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#125446 - 03/29/05 04:06 AM Re: another generator
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Loc: Norfolk, England
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i just turn off the switches and plug into the recepticles with a heavy duty cord-14ga. that will have a male plug on each end.


Don't do it! Aside from any code violations, this sort of setup is just not safe.

No matter how careful you think you will be, when the lights go out and you're trying to hookup the generator by flashlight it will be all too easy to make a mistake.

A cord with plug both ends is a denger for a start, due to the risk of exposed hot prongs.

If you forget to open the switches before plugging into the receptacles (and it will happen, eventually), you'll be backfeeding not only your whole house but also the transformer outside on the pole and the high-voltage lines connected to it.



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#125447 - 03/29/05 04:22 AM Re: another generator
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Registered: 12/06/04
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Loc: Palm Bay FL USA
DON'T do it! Life's too short. If you wan't to power these items without the expense of a transfer switch, there is a much safer way.
Put a power cord on these devices and then mount a receptacle on the wall to the house elec. system. when power goes out unplug these devices from the wall and connect them to the generator. Then there is no live prongs. Code may not be happy with this but it will be much safer.

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#125448 - 03/29/05 04:26 AM Re: another generator
coachman Offline
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Registered: 12/06/01
Posts: 13
Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ, USA
Install a Manual Transfer at the main panel. You can then power these circuits and you will be code compliant and a lot safer.

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#125449 - 03/29/05 04:26 AM Re: another generator
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When I say a cord and receptacle I mean make these items non-hardwire. Kind of like a window air conditioner. Make sure to use correctly rated plugs and wire.

[This message has been edited by IanR (edited 03-29-2005).]

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#125450 - 03/29/05 04:30 AM Re: another generator
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Loc: Palm Bay FL USA
I'll echo coachman, a small xfer swich is not prohibitivly xpensive and then code will be happy and you all will be much safer. and you mentioned the future prospect of selling, it will be a positive selling point if it is done right.

[This message has been edited by IanR (edited 03-29-2005).]

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#125451 - 03/29/05 05:35 AM Re: another generator
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is this what you mean? http://www.generatoroutlet.com/manual_transfer_switch.html

[This message has been edited by stranger (edited 03-29-2005).]

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