The Electrical Contractor Network

ECN Electrical Forum
Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

Books, Tools and Test Equipment for Electrical and Construction Trades

Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#124667 - 11/28/06 03:24 PM All in the Family
electure Offline


Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 4226
Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
From Lostazhell

My wife went out early this "black friday" (armed with my MasterCard, Nach! ) and called me telling me to check my email, and I'd be so proud of her.... She sent me this pic of a fairly dilapidated Zinsco panel with all kinds of issues, from where she had breakfast with her mom.... I told her I hope she used her zoom and to stay at least 50' from it!

Tools for Electricians:
#124668 - 11/28/06 03:41 PM Re: All in the Family
Roger Offline

Registered: 05/18/02
Posts: 1779
Loc: N.C.
Randy, I can't believe they drove all the way to NC for Black Friday, I swear I've seen that very same panel here.

BTW, You've trained her well.


#124669 - 11/28/06 04:07 PM Re: All in the Family
JJM Offline

Registered: 10/31/05
Posts: 102
Zinsco ain't ALL that terrible... at least phases can easily be switched on the back of the breakers. This is important because the acring that usually occurs on the busbars gets so bad you really need to use an adjoining phase.

Might be better off with the acring though... the arcing is probably more reliable to open the circuit breaker, than the mushy feeling OEM Zinsco breakers.

Why is it the AFTERMARKET Zinsco breakers seem to feel and work better than the OEM Zinsco breakers?


#124670 - 11/28/06 06:03 PM Re: All in the Family
renosteinke Offline
Cat Servant

Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 5305
Loc: Blue Collar Country
Ancient Chinese craftsmanship, grasshopper

#124671 - 11/28/06 08:07 PM Re: All in the Family
Celtic Offline

Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 367
Loc: NJ
~~ CELTIC ~~
...-= NJ =-...

#124672 - 11/28/06 08:52 PM Re: All in the Family
yaktx Offline

Registered: 02/19/03
Posts: 286
Loc: Austin, Texas, USA
Wow, she has you pegged!!

My wife went to Japan on business and she made sure to get tons of pix of Matsumoto Castle, including closeups of the fine joinery that traditional Japanese carpenters are famous for. She said it was freezing there. I didn't ask her for any electrical pix (although she took a few on her next trip to Thailand).

I've never seen a Zinsco panel like that, with two rows of breakers.

#124673 - 11/28/06 09:24 PM Re: All in the Family
mxslick Offline

Registered: 10/24/04
Posts: 785
Loc: Atomic City, ID USA
I've never seen a Zinsco panel like that, with two rows of breakers.

Great, double the trouble in a single panel!!!

Gotta love all that wire bending space too!!

Those thins are really crappy too, I've broken one open and was surprised that it could safely pass more than about 10 amps. (It was a twin 30amp.)

Stupid should be painful.

#124674 - 11/29/06 04:10 AM Re: All in the Family
SteveFehr Offline

Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1192
Loc: Chesapeake, VA
I like the spider web between the feeder lugs. I wonder how the spider managed THAT feat?

#124675 - 11/29/06 06:51 AM Re: All in the Family
mamills Offline

Registered: 11/30/01
Posts: 739
Loc: Wharton, Texas, USA
This old panel looks like it could have been set up as a split buss job. Remove the jumpers from the main lugs from the left side to right, install (or arc weld ) a large 2P breaker on the left side, and use it to feed the right side. How you would bend the conductors through those narrow gutters to the other side is another matter...

Doesn't make it any better, though... . Those jumpers look awful dicey. I'm surprised the entire panel isn't full of mud daubers. Those little beasties can get in everywhere.

JJM: I know what you mean by those mushy feeling OEM breakers. I believe those were "Magnetrips", and if you operated the handle slowly enough, you could actually open the circuit (read "arcing contacts")before the "spring" kicks in .

Mike (mamills)

[This message has been edited by mamills (edited 11-29-2006).]

#124676 - 11/29/06 09:59 AM Re: All in the Family
RSmike Offline

Registered: 11/27/02
Posts: 130
Loc: Holland, MI USA
My spouse (bless her soul for putting up with me) now walks around and points out code violations to me. Well trained indeed.

I have yet to see any of these fire starter panels. Only Square D, CH, and the other popular brands. FP and the like must not be popular in the northern states....


Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

ECN Electrical Forums - sponsored by Electrical Contractor Network - Electrical and Code Related Discussion for Electrical Contractors, Electricians, Inspectors, Instructors, Engineers and other related Professionals