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#124042 - 07/15/06 02:20 AM Finding Flying Splices
Scott35 Offline

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***"Finding Flying Splices***

Here are some pictures of a few cute things found in a House.

The pictures were taken, and findings were made, by the EC I am currently performing Commercial / Industrial Electrical System Design / Build Engineering with.

He thought these would be humorous enough to post here at ECN!!!




Image #1: Flying Splice in an existing Wall - below an existing Outlet.




Image #2: 4s Box makeup fiasco! (in an accessible Attic)




Image #3: Flying Splices in the same Attic.




Image #4: Another Flying Splice in the Attic - notice the "Old NM Cable Meets New NM Cable" scenario!

Scott35

posted 07.15.2006 @ 01:53:00
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#124043 - 07/15/06 01:37 PM Re: Finding Flying Splices
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I am afraid I know exactly where I could find inside-the-wall "flying splices!"

I used to have a certain apartment complex as a customer for any electrical work they might have wanted. The place was bought by a developer, who is in the process of converting these apartments into condos. As you might guess, the insides are getting gutted, and made all pretty for prospective purchasers.

I was called one day, when a receptacle in a kitchen wall was in the way of the new cabinets. Since pipe was used, and the pipe contained wires going to sundry other places, I was fairly limited in to where I could move the box- without doing lots of work. And they wanted this "Pronto!" (Seems their usual guy was out sick that day).
On completion, the foreman was not happy with my junction box being visible. I got the distinct feeling that he wanted the box buried in the wall.

So- I would not at all be surpriced if, in the other conversions, the splices and junction boxes are so buried. Heck, even mine might nave been, after I left!

Of course, my explanation of code, and servicing issues, made no impression- having everything fast, cheap, and pretty clearly were the only things that mattered.
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#124044 - 07/15/06 02:13 PM Re: Finding Flying Splices
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I saw a worker for a remodeling contractor saw through a knob and tube wire, the lights in part of the hallway went of, stripped the cut ends, twisted them back together, placed some duct tape over the spice and finish repairng the wall. Out of sight, out of mind is the name of the game. All is fair if you don't get caught.
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