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#123055 - 02/26/06 05:58 PM Where's the Workmanship?
electure Offline


Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 4229
Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
Here is the first, of many, pics I took at a brand-new $1.5 Million tract home. This home, while having relatively few actual code violations, raised quite a few matters for discussion.
This pic was taken in the main room of the home. The wall has many differing devices- phone, cable, sound system, as well as ordinary receptacles. Please note how the level of the cover plates bounces up and down- it seems everyone used a different ruler!


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#123056 - 02/26/06 06:07 PM Re: Where's the Workmanship?
Trumpy Offline


Registered: 07/05/02
Posts: 8560
Loc: SI,New Zealand
Wow John,
That's slack!.
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#123057 - 02/26/06 08:22 PM Re: Where's the Workmanship?
Radar Offline

Registered: 04/30/04
Posts: 349
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Reno - What the heck is the 'main' room of a $1.5 million house? Is that sort of what we'd think of as a family room?

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#123058 - 02/26/06 09:46 PM Re: Where's the Workmanship?
Tesla Offline

Registered: 06/16/04
Posts: 1280
Loc: Sacramento, CA
That looks terrible....

I could never let that pass.

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#123059 - 02/26/06 10:12 PM Re: Where's the Workmanship?
SolarPowered Offline

Registered: 07/05/04
Posts: 615
Loc: Palo Alto, CA, USA
What is the purpose of the single (as opposed to duplex) receptacle, second from the right? Is it 240V? It seems to me that it should have been ganged with the duplex to its right. And all that comm cabling probably could have gone into a signle double-wide, as well.

#123060 - 02/27/06 07:13 AM Re: Where's the Workmanship?
renosteinke Offline
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Registered: 01/22/05
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The single receptacle is a dedicated circuit for the entertainment center.

You'ld think the electrician would have put those two at the same level!

#123061 - 02/28/06 02:00 AM Re: Where's the Workmanship?

Registered: 12/08/05
Posts: 865
Loc: Titirangi, Akld, New Zealand
Rough work,
how much effort to do it right.

I wouldn't accept that as home owner.
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#123062 - 02/28/06 03:11 AM Re: Where's the Workmanship?
pauluk Offline

Registered: 08/11/01
Posts: 7693
Loc: Norfolk, England
The single receptacle is a dedicated circuit for the entertainment center.

Looks like a 20A to me. What on earth are they going to be running that couldn't have gone on a 15A circuit?

#123063 - 02/28/06 03:27 AM Re: Where's the Workmanship?
walrus Offline

Registered: 07/25/02
Posts: 671
Loc: Bangor Me. USA
If the single is for an entertainment center, isn't that whole wall going to be covered up anyway??

#123064 - 02/28/06 04:39 AM Re: Where's the Workmanship?
mahlere Offline

Registered: 11/17/05
Posts: 514
Loc: New Jersey

the key word here is "tract" home. Anyone in this industry for more than 3 days should be familiar with tract homes. I don't care what the selling price is, the developer (and/or his investors) is the one footing the bill for the buildout.

How many EC's do you know, who do tract homes, who pay the top wages in the area? Who hire only the most competent mechanics?

I'm not knocking those guys, but they've created their own cut throat industry by chopping their own prices to nothing to get work.

So why are we surprised that all corners are cut?

Anyone with 1/2 a brain would be a fool to buy a tract home for that much money.

Just my opinion.

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