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#122936 - 02/09/06 07:51 PM 11kV lines down
Trumpy Offline

Registered: 07/05/02
Posts: 8211
Loc: SI,New Zealand
Photos and info submitted by RODALCO:

11 kV lines down at 753 Te Atatu rd, Te Atatu North during storm on 24.01.2006 around 16.00 hrs, 4 km from Te Atatu sub. on Harbour view feeder. Earth fault protection failed hence the damage.
185mm² Al cock roach till 1 span before ABS 638 then Cu 16mm² for the next 1.5 km's.
This is a non fused section on a 400 Amp feeder at the end of a long suburban feeder. By this ABS 4 spans of 11 kV were down and another 4 separate spans at the end of this line.
Amazingly no damage was done to the 230 / 400 volts services which I had inspected by a contract inspector during the repairs.
Power was restored at around 01.30 hrs.
25 transformers were off and about 1500 customers affected.

ABS 638 minus its 11 kV wires:

Melted cables, the storm hasn't even started to full power yet:

Melted 16mm² Cu O/H cable:

Burn marks in the grass:

[This message has been edited by Trumpy (edited 02-09-2006).]
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#122937 - 02/09/06 08:10 PM Re: 11kV lines down
Trumpy Offline

Registered: 07/05/02
Posts: 8211
Loc: SI,New Zealand
2nd part of post:

ABS 638 other side:

Burnt through 15 cm conctere driveway. ( NZ 20 cent piece):

[b]Other close up from burned concrete:

Damaged drive way from Tasti Products:

My apologies for the delay posting this thread,
I haven't had a working computer for a wee while.

[This message has been edited by Trumpy (edited 02-10-2006).]
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#122938 - 02/09/06 08:26 PM Re: 11kV lines down
Radar Offline
Registered: 04/30/04
Posts: 349
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Wowzers this stuff is amazing. I live in a neighborhood with 12KV OH lines, old ones too. You know, the kind that fall occasionally in wind storms. Luckily none of the 12KV runs thru my yard, but one fell in my across-the-street neighbor's back yard a few years ago. Almost landed in his pool. It relayed off and on and off again before locking out, lots of arc marks on and around the house.

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#122939 - 02/09/06 09:48 PM Re: 11kV lines down
Dave T Offline
Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 155
Loc: Waukesha, WI, USA
I remember years ago when I had the privilege to see a downed line burn through a concrete sidewalk. That certainly got my attention.
#122940 - 02/10/06 07:11 AM Re: 11kV lines down
pauluk Offline
Registered: 08/11/01
Posts: 7520
Loc: Norfolk, England
I wouldn't have wanted to be standing anywhere around there when those lines came down!
#122941 - 02/10/06 10:25 AM Re: 11kV lines down
John Crighton Offline
Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 177
Loc: Southern California
It must have been an impressive light show, with all that arc welding going on. Too bad there were no surveillance cameras in the neighborhood.
#122942 - 02/10/06 02:23 PM Re: 11kV lines down
Rewired Offline
Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 558
Loc: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Wow! It really makes you take a step back and think about the amount of energy that can be delivered over a couple of measley conductors.. In my city the O/H ranges anywhere from 4KV all the way up to 27.6 KV.. We once had a 4KV circuit knocked down just behind my house but it didn't trip the substation breaker and did not arc or spark at all but was still hot!..
Someone actually tried to move this hot wire off their driveway with a dry pice of wood just so they could get their car out... It didn't work as they recieved a good shock but it did not harm them thank God!
Some people just do not understand!

#122943 - 02/10/06 05:55 PM Re: 11kV lines down
Lostazhell Offline
Registered: 02/21/04
Posts: 1428
Loc: Bakersfield, CA (Originally Or...
I once worked on a house where a 12KV primary broke loose and landed on the home's service drop.. Crazy things happened there! The 86 year old homeowner told me she was just sitting in her rocking chair and it sounded like someone fired a cannon in her backyard! GFI's with the faces blown off, the panel had a hole blown through the back (FPE), but strangely, some appliances survived.. others just made blue smoke when we tried plugging them into a generator.

Another time I happen to be around when 2- 33KV lines lost to gravity north of downtown Los Angeles in a storm... The arc-blast was enormous enough that the streets dept had to spot repair where the lines had fallen on the street (asphalt), where they had hit the sidewalk (concrete) it looked like it turned it to glass!

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