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#122792 - 01/17/06 08:53 PM Violation? or just Ugly?
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Can't seem to figure out if this is a violation or just really ugly.

Its a 100A subpanel feeding some DC rectifiers in a telecom shelter.


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#122793 - 01/18/06 10:22 AM Re: Violation? or just Ugly?
Wizzie Electric Offline
Registered: 01/16/06
Posts: 69
Loc: Maple Creek, Saskatchewan, Can...
Looks like someone went a little "coupler crazy" Also whats the green cable in the corner "ground)?

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#122794 - 01/18/06 11:06 AM Re: Violation? or just Ugly?
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Registered: 04/30/04
Posts: 349
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Why waste money on perfectly good conduit if you happen to have a bunch of miscellaneous couplings and spare parts laying around?
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#122795 - 01/18/06 11:48 AM Re: Violation? or just Ugly?
NJ_WVUGrad Offline
Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 47
Loc: Neptune, NJ, USA
The green cable on the side is part of the HALO grounding system in side the shelter, It runs out to an external grounding ring.

STuff like this is tough to explain to a client when your telling them that there existing work is poor, unless you can point out a violation they really don't care.

However, when their field tech comes to punch out the site, who gets called out for it.

WOuld this fail for "workmanlike" you think?
#122796 - 01/18/06 12:13 PM Re: Violation? or just Ugly?
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Registered: 07/05/02
Posts: 8211
Loc: SI,New Zealand
Doesn't look like it'll leak.
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#122797 - 01/18/06 12:45 PM Re: Violation? or just Ugly?
electech Offline
Registered: 02/18/02
Posts: 113
Loc: Northern Il
Does the NEC apply here?
#122798 - 01/18/06 01:10 PM Re: Violation? or just Ugly?
NJ_WVUGrad Offline
Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 47
Loc: Neptune, NJ, USA
Yes NEC does apply

or was that sarcasm?
#122799 - 01/18/06 02:09 PM Re: Violation? or just Ugly?
walrus Offline
Registered: 07/25/02
Posts: 680
Loc: Bangor Me. USA
If everything is tight, whats not workman like about it?? Not sure about the length maybe its need a clamp?? Mineralac?
#122800 - 01/18/06 05:01 PM Re: Violation? or just Ugly?
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Registered: 01/22/05
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Loc: Blue Collar Country
A close look at the midle coupling shows what appears to be a flush-cut reducing bushing nder the locknut. That, combined with the exposed threads on the chase nopple to the right, make me suspect that this pipe was installed after the panels were mounted- the various fittings are able to telescope enough to fit between the boxes.
#122801 - 01/20/06 11:22 AM Re: Violation? or just Ugly?
John Crighton Offline
Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 177
Loc: Southern California
Well, with all those offset nipples, it's almost too many bends in one conduit run!

1) What's holding that coupling to the left panel? A chase nipple on the inside? Is that an accepted practice?

2) That offset nipple on the left doesn't look like it's threaded very far into the reducer bushing. If it was really made up wrench-tight, I'd expect there would be no threads showing.

I don't think I'd count on a lash-up like that as part of the ground path. In fact, I can hardly stand looking at it...
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