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#122457 - 11/10/05 07:38 PM New Panelboard- Comments please?
Trumpy Offline


Registered: 07/05/02
Posts: 8532
Loc: SI,New Zealand
Picture submitted by magoo66:

No service conductors when I took the picture, but other than that, what do you think?

Thanks Jeff!.

Critique away folks.
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#122458 - 11/11/05 12:24 AM Re: New Panelboard- Comments please?
Big Jim Offline

Registered: 07/18/03
Posts: 377
Loc: Denver, CO USA
2 romexes per clamp doesn't fit my style.

Wire ties make for a neat layout but I find I ended up cutting most of them if I have to troubleshoot a panel.

#122459 - 11/11/05 07:10 AM Re: New Panelboard- Comments please?
Celtic Offline

Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 367
Loc: NJ
Looks nice...BUT (and not to bash the installer), why the need for wire ties on solid wire? The wires are nice and straight and will support themselves w/o the ty-wraps.

It IS a very nice job...everyone should be so diligent in "what's behind the scenes". (Even the switch box to the left is a classy install)
~~ CELTIC ~~
...-= NJ =-...

#122460 - 11/11/05 07:30 AM Re: New Panelboard- Comments please?
renosteinke Offline
Cat Servant

Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 5305
Loc: Blue Collar Country
This install is actually done EXACTLY as suggested in NECA's 'workmanship' standard.

The two cables per clamp is in cmpliance with the UL listing. Such information is found on the box the clamps came in.

#122461 - 11/11/05 07:52 AM Re: New Panelboard- Comments please?
chipmunk Offline

Registered: 07/20/04
Posts: 142
Loc: Southampton, UK
When I end up troubleshooting on a job like this, yes, I cut the cable ties, but I replace them afterwards, one of the overlooked facts about such a neat installation is it encourages those who come after to emulate the work.

#122462 - 11/11/05 07:56 AM Re: New Panelboard- Comments please?
Tiger Offline

Registered: 05/04/05
Posts: 714
Loc: Crystal Lake, IL USA
Beautiful job. Be proud.


#122463 - 11/11/05 10:58 AM Re: New Panelboard- Comments please?
mxslick Offline

Registered: 10/24/04
Posts: 785
Loc: Atomic City, ID USA
A big thumbs up, this is a work of art! Someone has a lot of skill and pride in workmanship for sure!

With that said, since it looks like the feeder has to enter the bottom, how are they gonna get them up to the top lugs without destroying this nice work?
Stupid should be painful.

#122464 - 11/11/05 12:50 PM Re: New Panelboard- Comments please?
Electricmanscott Offline

Registered: 01/12/02
Posts: 1478
Loc: Holden, MA USA
Blue ty ty can't use blue ty wraps.... blah blah blah....

Seriously awesome job. Send this over to Mike Holts board for a real evaluation.

#122465 - 11/11/05 12:59 PM Re: New Panelboard- Comments please?
iwire Offline

Registered: 01/05/03
Posts: 4343
Loc: North Attleboro, MA USA
Seriously awesome job. Send this over to Mike Holts board for a real evaluation.

LOL, No doubt Jim of FL would find fault with it.

Of course it would work better if it had a feed.
Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician

#122466 - 11/11/05 01:27 PM Re: New Panelboard- Comments please?
mamills Offline

Registered: 11/30/01
Posts: 739
Loc: Wharton, Texas, USA
Put a plexiglass cover on this one - it's too nice to be covered up with the usual solid metal cover .

Question: Does derating come into play here, given the small amount of bundling of conductors?

Another question: under what circumstances would a panel be wired before the service conductors are installed? Just curious, because it seems traditionally that the service always comes first...(e.g. chicken or egg...?)

Mike (mamills)

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