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#121433 - 07/16/05 03:58 AM Access and Management Attitudes
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Registered: 12/24/00
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Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
Sure can make a difference

1st place:
I've got a "Grade1" (unlimited) access card to this whole facility. This is one of several switchrooms, the server rooms and Elec rms follow suit.







3/4 of a mile down the street:
I spent an hour waiting to get in this room while I was being "approved". They "don't let just anybody in" because they have "lots of valuable equipment in there"






Dumb, Huh?



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#121434 - 07/16/05 04:33 AM Re: Access and Management Attitudes
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I know what happened.

You where upset because you had to wait so you set off a bomb in the room that is now a disaster.

It is amazing that rooms like that are all to common.

Most times a problem in one of these rooms can put all the companies employees on hold. With that kind of risk you would think all the rooms should look like the first one you posted.

Here is a typical IT space for a very large super market chain we work for.

All the registers, phones, scales, payroll, pricing guns, orders etc pass through this mess.

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#121435 - 07/16/05 04:51 AM Re: Access and Management Attitudes
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The 1st picture is good.
Just a shame the rest of it is a nasty piece of work!.
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#121436 - 07/16/05 06:09 AM Re: Access and Management Attitudes
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What a contrast! That first establishment looks like a dream to work in compared to most.

The framed diagrams on the wall are a nice touch. I bet that second place doesn't even have much in the way of routing diagrams for anything, right?

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#121437 - 07/16/05 12:23 PM Re: Access and Management Attitudes
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Loc: S.F.,CA USA
The first place has all of the possibility of looking like the second... Depending on whom they allow to add or make changes to the plant. And just general housekeeping of the room, note the beginings of a bad habit with the box, and bulbs laying around. It's the begining of the end. The little stuff adds up over time.

The second place obviously doesn't just let anyone in the there, because the slightest breath could disturb that nest of garbage. And they are probhably just a little embarrassed when anyone sees it. As I imagine that most of it was done in house, by the guy who made you wait.
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#121438 - 07/16/05 01:40 PM Re: Access and Management Attitudes
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Bad Habits??
The lamps had just been changed by the day porter as part of a scheduled maintenance program. He wouldn't leave them there.

The boxes were thrown out as soon as the 2 routers inside were put in the rack. Honest

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#121439 - 07/16/05 06:14 PM Re: Access and Management Attitudes
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Registered: 02/21/03
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Loc: Newnan, GA
What are you guys doing in our phone rooms without even stopping by to say hello??
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#121440 - 07/17/05 12:44 AM Re: Access and Management Attitudes
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Loc: Palo Alto, CA, USA
Interesting about management attitudes...

I'm doing some work at a place that looks just like the first two pics. (In fact, it looks so much like the first two pics that I had to study the drawings on the wall to make sure it isn't the same place. ) It's amazing how the attitude follows through into other things--they have a guy who must come around at least three times a day to empty the trash cans. I've never seen anything like that before.

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#121441 - 07/18/05 12:48 AM Re: Access and Management Attitudes
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Loc: Lehigh Acres, FL
\:o

Where do I jack in? damn, and I thought MY wiring was a mess!
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#121442 - 07/18/05 07:00 PM Re: Access and Management Attitudes
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Loc: S.F.,CA USA
I bet the bulbs are still there....
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