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#121196 - 06/24/05 04:09 AM The Original "Firewire"?
electure Offline


Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 4229
Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
Got a call for a garage rewire... Customer wanted to add a 240V dryer outlet as well.... He didn't like it when I told him he was out of space in his 4 circuit FPE panel.... He really didn't like it when I told him how someone had made space for a 240V range circuit....

Randy (Lostazhell)

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#121197 - 06/24/05 02:29 PM Re: The Original "Firewire"?
Radar Offline

Registered: 04/30/04
Posts: 349
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
I dunno - looks like there might be room for one more wire under there if you try really hard! Heck, ya got 60 amps to use up!

What was/were he/they thinking?
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#121198 - 06/24/05 05:47 PM Re: The Original "Firewire"?
Theelectrikid Offline

Registered: 04/30/04
Posts: 854
Loc: Levittown, PA
If those wires are 20Amp, you're at capacity, but, if they're 15amp circuits, there's room for one more!
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#121199 - 06/24/05 06:15 PM Re: The Original "Firewire"?
winnie Offline

Registered: 09/15/03
Posts: 652
Loc: boston, ma
Silly humans. Those are _9_ amp breakers. No overload problems at all.


#121200 - 06/24/05 10:09 PM Re: The Original "Firewire"?
mxslick Offline

Registered: 10/24/04
Posts: 785
Loc: Atomic City, ID USA
What difference does it make anyway? After all that is an FPE No-Trip breaker!!

Stupid should be painful.

#121201 - 06/25/05 04:15 AM Re: The Original "Firewire"?
Alan Belson Offline

Registered: 03/23/05
Posts: 1801
Loc: Mayenne N. France
Why, so they blooming are! One even has the word NO engraved on it!
Wood work but can't!

#121202 - 06/27/05 01:56 PM Re: The Original "Firewire"?
Lostazhell Offline

Registered: 02/21/04
Posts: 1248
Loc: Bakersfield, CA (Originally Or...
Those #8 TW's are bad enough.... The 4- 12AWG TW's are for the entire house.. so every outlet in the house has the potential of a 60A draw... : :

The best part is this is a rental house and the property owner didnt see this as something that needed attention... He was whining more about having no room to shove a 240V dryer circuit in this mess..

#121203 - 06/27/05 02:00 PM Re: The Original "Firewire"?
Dnkldorf Offline

Registered: 12/12/04
Posts: 1091
Loc: nowhere usa
When did they allow the breakers to be on in the down position?

#121204 - 06/27/05 03:04 PM Re: The Original "Firewire"?
Ryan_J Offline

Registered: 08/19/03
Posts: 1355
Loc: West Jordan, Utah, USA
Randy was standing on his head again...
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Salt Lake City

#121205 - 06/27/05 05:25 PM Re: The Original "Firewire"?
renosteinke Offline
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Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 5305
Loc: Blue Collar Country
The rule against "upside down" breaker must be fairly recent...I've seen a number of Square D "combination" services where half of the breakers were upside-down.


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