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#121005 - 06/06/05 02:24 PM Don't Believe Everything You See!
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I found these lamps at a customer's house. They sure look nice from the front, but a side view shows that there is no direct connection between the fixture and the box.

The lamps had UL labels- but my knowledge of UL standards made me doubt that UL would accept such a product...and, no real surprise here, the UL label turned out to be counterfeit, with a non-existant "file number" on it.

- renosteinke

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#121006 - 06/06/05 05:07 PM Re: Don't Believe Everything You See!
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Posts: 4226
Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
What are the chances of being able to trace this "phony" back to the supplier?

Where would you report such a thing?

#121007 - 06/06/05 06:04 PM Re: Don't Believe Everything You See!
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Registered: 01/22/05
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UL has a procedure known as "field reports," where such matters are initiated.
I would have loved to run these fixtures down, but I lacked some co-operation from the owner. I suspect they were picked up on a trip south of the border.
There was, other than the UL lables and a "made in Mexico" lable, absolutely no identification of any sort on them.

I forgot to mention that they also lacked any means of grounding.

#121008 - 06/07/05 01:08 AM Re: Don't Believe Everything You See!
mxslick Offline

Registered: 10/24/04
Posts: 785
Loc: Atomic City, ID USA
I think those things should be prohibited due to being butt ugly!!
Stupid should be painful.

#121009 - 06/08/05 01:13 PM Re: Don't Believe Everything You See!
pauluk Offline

Registered: 08/11/01
Posts: 7693
Loc: Norfolk, England
due to being butt ugly!!

Got to agree on that. They might look at home on the walls of one of our medieval English castles, I suppose.

#121010 - 06/08/05 01:47 PM Re: Don't Believe Everything You See!
Alan Belson Offline

Registered: 03/23/05
Posts: 1801
Loc: Mayenne N. France
One has to have SOMEWHERE to hang the servants!
Wood work but can't!


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