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#1201 - 04/30/01 08:38 PM Greenies, Crimps or Pigtails?
Bill Addiss Offline
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What do you do with the Grounding wires when there's more than 1?

I like Greenies (with Romex)

Bill

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#1202 - 04/30/01 08:46 PM Re: Greenies, Crimps or Pigtails?
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I wirenut them together and leave a pigtail for each device.
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#1203 - 05/01/01 03:57 AM Re: Greenies, Crimps or Pigtails?
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I'll second the greenies! Wished I'd thought of that

Matt
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#1204 - 05/01/01 04:21 AM Re: Greenies, Crimps or Pigtails?
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PT70-M Barrel Crimps... but ya gotta know how to use them properly...

They save on space compared to Greenies...
(I'm talking real space, not wire count)

Don't I remember something about irreversible pressure connections on grounds?
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#1205 - 05/01/01 04:35 AM Re: Greenies, Crimps or Pigtails?
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I use the wirenuts w/ pigtails to the devices & boxes in conduit apps. When a residential romex job comes along, the barrels are OK. Reason? We tend to get back in later to the conduit jobs, and cutting off those PT70's is a pain in the tail.
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#1206 - 05/01/01 05:19 AM Re: Greenies, Crimps or Pigtails?
Bill Addiss Offline
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'66,

What do you mean about using them properly?
Do you mean about folding them in so they don't dig into anything else?
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#1207 - 05/01/01 03:22 PM Re: Greenies, Crimps or Pigtails?
Vin Offline
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On some applications I've used ground clips.
In the past I used the silver ones. I just bought some green ones and there awful to work with. Any one else????
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#1208 - 05/01/01 04:11 PM Re: Greenies, Crimps or Pigtails?
Bill Addiss Offline
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Vin,

I've had problems with them too! I thought I was missing something. There's got to be an easy way to put those things on. (after you get them apart that is)I just don't know what it is!

Bill
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#1209 - 05/01/01 06:44 PM Re: Greenies, Crimps or Pigtails?
sparky66wv Offline
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Yes, Bill.

As long as we adhere to 110-12 (the catch all code!) then barrels are just fine.

Put them strategically into a corner, and strategically fold all conductors into the box, crossing them as little as possible.
Doesn't take anymore time than cramming them in and sorting the mess out during trim-out.

Keep in mind, that before 99 code, 300-14 was taken to mean 6" inches of free conductor (outside of the box?!?) to the AHJ in this area. 99 NEC clarified that much to our relief.

We developed good rough-in habits doing it this way though, now that we can use much shorter wire! I still do a maticulous job with my boxes, makes trim-out a snap!
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#1210 - 05/02/01 04:42 PM Re: Greenies, Crimps or Pigtails?
sparky Offline
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I carry both greenies and crimps, both have favorable atributes, given different situations.
I've become somewhat annal with the way i make up my boxes, but i like a neat job & it's my trademark, i'll always know that's my work , in fact, most of our local trade knows the others in this manner.
same reason dogs wiz on tires i guess...

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