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#119260 - 12/13/04 05:05 PM Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes
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Registered: 12/24/00
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You never know what you might come across.
I wouldn't want to be some poor soul on the other end of this. Don't take anything for granted.

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#119261 - 12/13/04 05:33 PM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes
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His business card is in the bottom of the panel, but we must protect the identity of the guilty as well as the innocent , another thing that is a problem is a lack of circuit directories in the panels.

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#119262 - 12/13/04 05:59 PM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes
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Registered: 05/18/02
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I like the old saying, "The names are not changed (or are posted in this case) because God protects the innocent"

Roger

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#119263 - 12/13/04 09:20 PM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes
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Registered: 08/30/04
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Loc: NY
OUCH!!!

Do we see at least two breakers with green wires tapped off them???

Hopefully they are re-identified at the other end?!?!?!

DIY'er? Or, colorblind person did the wiring?

"Green only as grounding conductor"-what is the code article? 310.12 Conductor Identification (C) Ungrounded Conductors? ("...shall be... clearly distinguishable from grounded and grounding conductors.")

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#119264 - 12/13/04 09:57 PM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes
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I only saw the panel end of that circuit it was done by a GC during a remuddling.

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#119265 - 12/14/04 05:40 AM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes
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Registered: 07/05/02
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Rollie,
There's not a lot of space between the breaker terminals and the Neutral Busbar.
Mind you, this picture just proves that those that usually use hammers, shouldn't use screwdrivers.
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#119266 - 12/14/04 11:47 AM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes
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Registered: 10/13/04
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Why must we protect the identity of the guilty? As a homeowner, I'd like to know who NOT to call. I say post the business card- how else will things change?

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#119267 - 12/14/04 05:50 PM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes
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I do not think the webmaster would look to kindly to doing that.

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#119268 - 12/14/04 05:54 PM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes
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chimo,
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I say post the business card- how else will things change?

Oh things would change alright!, for the worst.
There's all sorts of legal ramifications to doing a thing like that.
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#119269 - 12/15/04 02:38 PM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes
electure Offline

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Registered: 12/24/00
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Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
Here's another pic from NORCAL showing the path to even get to this panel.



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