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#118250 - 08/17/04 04:57 PM Who's Crazy?
electure Offline

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Registered: 12/24/00
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Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
I got a violation notice on a ground bar. (The picture I took of it came out bad, though, so here's one just like it).
I slipped up and told the inspector he was crazy...Oooops




It's a factory supplied component for a Cutler-Hammer 225 Amp Main Lug panel.

Now, what's the matter with it?

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#118251 - 08/17/04 05:14 PM Re: Who's Crazy?
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Hello Scott,
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I slipped up and told the inspector he was crazy...Oooops

doesn't that come under the heading of s---happens?

The only thing I can think of is he wants a green screw or nut.

Of course you could tell him that besides his being crazy, until a conductor is landed on the bar it doesn't exist.

Roger

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#118252 - 08/17/04 05:50 PM Re: Who's Crazy?
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Registered: 04/14/02
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Loc: San Jose, CA
What doesn't he like about it?

If this was a factor installed bar wouldn't any changes you make to it possibly void the UL listing?

I think you were being nice. I would have said more than calling him crazy.

Curt
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#118253 - 08/17/04 06:50 PM Re: Who's Crazy?
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Some people have a hair across it, and should be told so! (politely of course...)

Raise one brow like Spock, and a calm monotone voice... "I'm sorry, but you are out of your mind"

I had a simular thing happen with a panel once, the Inspector made some wild claim about "modification" of a neutral buss. So we continued with the Inspection, while I sent a guy to the supply house to get another one. He came back, we opened the un-opened box in front of him. Then took it back, a waste of time and money......
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#118254 - 08/18/04 08:48 AM Re: Who's Crazy?
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Registered: 02/21/04
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Scott,
Was it a new, overly zealous inspector that I might be dealing with in a coastal city?
I've got one that wrote a subpanel I changed up as this exactly "Continuity problem at subpanel"
Thats all he wrote! I called him & he said between the neutral & ground there's a continuity problem... I measured it & it rang out just fine... I recalled him out.... We'll see if he's really crazy

-Randy

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#118255 - 08/18/04 04:29 PM Re: Who's Crazy?
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Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
The reason he wrote it up is that this mounting does not provide "direct metal contact."


He also doesn't like the EMT fittings without a grounding bushing or a Meyers Hub.
He says that the hole (7/8", 1-1/8", etc) is larger than the fitting, and thus does not provide "direct metal contact".

I looked up "direct metal contact" in the '99 NEC for a total of 0 hits for my query.

The secondary conductors from the utility transformer were not yet installed, so when I gave him a torque letter from the office that the gear had been torqued to specs, he told me I was committing FRAUD.

This & more was all before I told him he was crazy. ...S


He's an older fellow not by the beach, Randy.

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#118256 - 08/18/04 04:45 PM Re: Who's Crazy?
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Registered: 07/06/04
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Some people have a hair across it, and should be told so!


LMFAO!!!!

Inspectors???
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#118257 - 08/18/04 04:58 PM Re: Who's Crazy?
mvpmaintman Offline
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Registered: 09/15/03
Posts: 113
Loc: Manhattan, Kansas, USA
I see it, its that ag, with the green writing, its partly under the attachment nut. It must be interfering with the "direct metal contact".

Or was that direct mental defect??

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#118258 - 08/18/04 05:14 PM Re: Who's Crazy?
iwire Offline
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Registered: 01/05/03
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Loc: North Attleboro, MA USA
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He also doesn't like the EMT fittings without a grounding bushing or a Meyers Hub.


I will steal a line from electricmanscott.

"Poor fellow"

Did you explain to him that no one gives a .... about what he likes?
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