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#115959 - 01/10/04 07:38 PM Granny's Old FuseBox
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The first pic shows the method by which earlier poking fingers dealt with expanding electrical needs. Just add an extra wire... there's room on the terminal!



The second pic shows what greeted me when I pulled the cover. Notice the liberal use of 30 ampere fuses - I guess the 15 and 20's kept blowing, so neighborhood helpers "fixed" the problem. What the heck, I mean, 14 and 12 awg can handle it, right? The fact that only one circuit was actually rated for 30a is kind of incidental I suppose.



The third pic shows how the aforementioned poking fingers added additional home runs. If there aren't enough K.O.'s (***HINT***HINT***) then we can just piggyback the Romexes together in the same hole, right?

Not to worry. Granny's got a new Seimens 100a breaker panel with 15 breakers in place. She's happy, and it made a good Xmas present.

-DougW

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#115960 - 01/11/04 06:17 AM Re: Granny's Old FuseBox
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It looks like someone's been in here and added some things (the white romexes) comparatively recently.
The 30 A fuses can be explained!
Green is for go=30A
Red is for stop=20A
Someone just wanted it to go.

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#115961 - 01/11/04 10:04 AM Re: Granny's Old FuseBox
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#115962 - 01/11/04 03:38 PM Re: Granny's Old FuseBox
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Heck, Andy
I was only kiddin'.
(My sarcasism is very often "not appreciated" at the job, either, but things sometimes, issues must at least be mentioned)...S




[This message has been edited by electure (edited 01-11-2004).]

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#115963 - 01/11/04 05:23 PM Re: Granny's Old FuseBox
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Question, asked of a child:
"What does the greenlight mean?"
Child: "Go!"

"Very good. What does the red light mean?"
Child: "Stop!"

"Excellent! Now, what does the yellow light mean?"
Child: "Hurry up!"

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#115964 - 01/12/04 06:15 AM Re: Granny's Old FuseBox
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what does the orange light mean - the wire is glowing...

of course i understood your joke, my reaction was meant for the pictures

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#115965 - 01/12/04 06:43 AM Re: Granny's Old FuseBox
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Thinkgood, spoken like a true New Yorker.

Is the color-coding for screw-in fuses universal? I know I commonly see blue for 15 amps, 20 is orange, I believe....and I think I once saw a 30-amp fuse with a yellow & green band.

And I have an 8-amp fuse with a green band. All of these are Buss/Cooper.

There also used to be these all-glass fuses, but I haven't seen new ones of those in ages -- Gem in Hauppauge, NY (on Long Island) used to make those....

p.s. I understand that the casing for these fuses is not porcelain anymore, but a type of plastic composition. Not really thrilled about that...isn't it possible for it to melt?

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#115966 - 01/12/04 10:22 AM Re: Granny's Old FuseBox
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Sven:

"Don't Walk" = RUN!

Seriously, what is unfortunate in many situations is that the homeowner/occupant does not realize that there may not necessarily be an immediate danger, but that over time the overloading can cause problems.

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#115967 - 01/13/04 02:01 PM Re: Granny's Old FuseBox
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The thing I was most thankful for this (day after) Xmas? That the PoCo had run 100a capable service to all of the houses when the subdivision was built... saved time and $$.

Explained to Grandma that, while the cousins may have meant well, that they had placed her and her house in jeopardy... we had a fire a few years ago - about a week before Xmas - due to 30a fuses and extension cords under carpets.

I also told her to call me if anybody tried messing with the new panel - cause i'll kill 'em!

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#115968 - 01/13/04 06:02 PM Re: Granny's Old FuseBox
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A commentary from an owner of a neighborhood hardware store.....
We used to sell a lot of 15 & 20 amp fuses, and quite a few times, when the shelf was empty, the people took the 30'. Well, I don't sell to many 15/20's anymore.

Customer told him...
You've been sellin' me the 'cheap' fuses all these years! I found the "real good" ones at Harry's Hardware, same price, but they don't 'blow'. He showed a "real good" fuse to the owner, yes it was 30 amp.

I have quite a few glowing memories of some old tenements in Newark, from years back...

John
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