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#115837 - 12/23/03 09:52 PM Misc Issues to be dealt with
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Here are a few photos I took recently on a job we are commissioning. They are not all CODE violations, but are issues I found needing to be changed at the least. Hope you find them as interesting as I did.

- Cubby964
Jim Gibson


(above) - shows some expansion couplings that are not in the right location.
(see expansion joint to right)



(above) - a water line drain valve pointing at a bus plug outlet.



(above) - water draining out of a 3/4" conduit(look closely).



(above) - another copper water line and valve paralleling a NEMA 1 bus duct.



(above) - a drain line directly over a transition box that should be relocated.

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#115838 - 12/23/03 09:56 PM Re: Misc Issues to be dealt with
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(above) - a j-box of insufficient size.





(2 photos above) - are self explanatory



(above) - the best photo of myself I have.
(I'll work on that one!)

Use what you like, trash the rest
Thanks for the great site!

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Jim Gibson

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#115839 - 12/24/03 08:21 AM Re: Misc Issues to be dealt with
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Photo #1: Any idea what that wire tied to the pipework with string is for?

Photo #2: Is there anything in codes to make this a violation? Certainly not good common sense.

Photos #7 & 8: Taking the scenic route?

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#115840 - 12/24/03 04:03 PM Re: Misc Issues to be dealt with
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Cubby,
Please keep on taking pictures, and posting them!
Lots of these larger jobs have so many messups that you could wear your camera finger out...Then they get approved, and the unsuspecting public is stuck with the consequences...
GREAT WORK!!...S
re: the "transition box" that mustbe relocated, I don't see a ground wire in each of those conduits...Aren't they needed?



[This message has been edited by electure (edited 12-25-2003).]

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#115841 - 12/27/03 02:33 AM Re: Misc Issues to be dealt with
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Cubby,
Great pics, mate!.
What sort of camera did you use?
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#115842 - 12/27/03 03:39 AM Re: Misc Issues to be dealt with
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They are not all CODE violations, but are issues I found needing to be changed at the least.


How would you go about having these issues you feel need changing addressed?

Are you a NEC inspector or a building owner rep with some specifications in hand?

Maybe I am missing something but I see very few code violations.

I see some sloppy work and a undersized box.

The water coming out of the conduit is probably not from poor electric work but poor plumbing work.

Can anyone point out some true violations that a NEC inspector could do something about?

This is why it is so important on larger jobs to have engineers on board with specifications that exceed the NEC and the power to enforce them.
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#115843 - 01/04/04 03:14 PM Re: Misc Issues to be dealt with
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You have to admit, though (except for that pesky 360 rule) that the bends in # 7 are close to being artwork

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