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#115745 - 12/18/03 08:53 PM Chewed up Romex
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I was on a service call for an intermittently-working set of duplex receptacles. After removing the cover and pulling out the receptacles, and after pulling my jaw from the floor, I reached for my camera took these pictures. I shouldn't be shocked (no pun intended) to see this kind of work anymore, but this box is located in a child's bedroom which really disturbs me. I will also note that the wire nut connecting the ungrounded conductors was on loose and each of the wires had the ability to move freely.

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#115746 - 12/18/03 09:09 PM Re: Chewed up Romex
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He didn't use enough Duct Tape?

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#115747 - 12/18/03 09:35 PM Re: Chewed up Romex
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Amazing. And what's even more significant is that there appears to be no sign of scorching.

How does chewed up NM cable like this get fixed when pulling a new cable and/or cutting back the damaged section is not an option?

Do you just find heat-shrink tubing that's big enough to fit over the cable jacket or do you wrap that whole sucker up with insulating tape? What if the underlying conductor insulation is also chewed up?

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#115748 - 12/19/03 12:37 AM Re: Chewed up Romex
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The black jumper wire between the receptacles is wrapped the wrong way around the screw or is it a continous wire that loops around the screw? The cut NM appears to be an extra cable, as does the NM with the writing on the sheath. The right side of pic #3 shows RotoZip cut in the box. Is this what caused the cut in the NM? I also don't see any sheath in the box from the NM with the loose red wire nut(or a ground unless it's hiding behind the grounded cond.).


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#115749 - 12/19/03 05:43 AM Re: Chewed up Romex
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Stamcon (Steve):

You're right; the black jumper wire between the receptacles is wrapped the wrong way around the screw. That wire was not continuous, but the ground wire was. The neutral was also continuous.

I am unsure of the Rotozip casualty in the box... it is a nail-on, not an old-work box, so you'd think the sheetrocker (or DIY) would've cut the hole out ahead of time???

Finally, you're also correct in your observation that the NM with the loose red wire nut has no sheath inside the box. I pulled everything out the best I could and shined my light where the wires entered the box and could see no evidence of a sheath. Eeeek!

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#115750 - 12/19/03 06:56 AM Re: Chewed up Romex
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Since the chewed jacket/insulation goes all the way down to the conductor itself in several places, I wonder if the conductor itself is nicked or damaged?

...Hate those "push and pray" connectors on receptacles and switches.

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#115751 - 12/19/03 10:21 AM Re: Chewed up Romex
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also looks like the carlon box suffered from rotozip-itis

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#115752 - 12/19/03 10:23 AM Re: Chewed up Romex
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oops stamcom i daidnt fully read your post.. sorry


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#115753 - 12/19/03 04:39 PM Re: Chewed up Romex
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#115754 - 12/20/03 06:50 PM Re: Chewed up Romex
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...Hate those "push and pray" connectors on receptacles and switches.
I can't stand those back-stabbed receptacles...in my opinion,it should be a violation..the contact made with that is horrible,and if you lose a neutral because of one of them,you pull your hair out trying to find the offending receptacle...I realize this is a bit off topic,but I had to rant...I feel much better now,...thanx!!



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