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#115323 - 10/17/03 01:04 PM "SIMPLEX" wire connectors?  
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This is marked "MADE IN HOLLAND."

I found it while digging in my back yard during the summer. Were these (are these) used often?

-ThinkGood


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#115324 - 10/17/03 04:45 PM Re: "SIMPLEX" wire connectors?  
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Nice find....I had a few of these around somewhere that were removed during a renovation job. They are "wirenuts", and were used as such a long time ago, before plastic. I never noticed that they are from Holland. Wonder what they cost???

John


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#115325 - 10/17/03 05:09 PM Re: "SIMPLEX" wire connectors?  
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I have an old electric menorah from which I removed an ill-fitting white ceramic wirenut to replace it with a better fitting but garish yellow plastic one.

Some people also call them "marrettes".

The one I removed, however, is unglazed. There is also no metal spring inside the porcelaine shell and no maker's mark -- just a UL logo on the top.

I saw, years ago, some tiny ceramic wire nuts in a lighting store here in New York. Didn't know they still made them in that material.


#115326 - 10/17/03 06:01 PM Re: "SIMPLEX" wire connectors?  
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While talking about old splice caps here, I just removed an old one from a 40's house. It was a brass? crimp on the wires. UL listed for 10-18 AWG wires. There were 4 dents (one on each side) so I guess it was sort of crumpled on the wires with a special tool. Over this was a black rubber cover shaped like a wirenut.There were 4 bumps (to fit in the dents?) inside. At the end was a B in a triangle (Buchanan, I think) and the number 2005. As an extra security for the insulator, there was a red ring slid over the cap. I think it was original. I has to cut the crimp off though, so I was left with some 4" leads from the box. [Linked Image] Very labor intensive.
Thinkgood, is there a spring inside? I guess even if there was, it has rusted out from being buried for years.


#115327 - 10/17/03 06:29 PM Re: "SIMPLEX" wire connectors?  
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Those crimp splices are not necessarily old. You can buy them all over the place. Home depot even sells them (though they don't sell the necessary crimping tool)

See:
Ideal/Buchanan crimp connectors

-Jon

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#115328 - 10/17/03 06:35 PM Re: "SIMPLEX" wire connectors?  
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I use Ideal crimps all the time on grounds. I just thought it was neat the way things were done before wire nuts were commom.

ps I use a klein 1005 crimper


#115329 - 10/17/03 07:00 PM Re: "SIMPLEX" wire connectors?  
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Should this be in the 'Nostalgia' area?
Can anyone date the usage of these?

Bill


#115330 - 10/17/03 10:03 PM Re: "SIMPLEX" wire connectors?  
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Porcelain wire nuts are still used and readily available. They are for areas of high heat(stoves,ovens,...). No spring, just threaded cone.


#115331 - 10/18/03 01:46 AM Re: "SIMPLEX" wire connectors?  
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Some people also call them "marrettes".


Another case of one brand's name becoming the accepted name of a generic product. Maybe its just a Canadian thing?
http://tnbelectricalworld.tnb.com/contractor/docs/marrette.pdf


#115332 - 10/19/03 12:53 AM Re: "SIMPLEX" wire connectors?  
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Not just Canadian (maybe for marrettes "though"). Other countries often use tradenames for the generic name of a product.


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