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#113814 - 10/09/02 04:56 PM Is this Box "Accessible" ? Opinions Needed
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#113815 - 10/09/02 05:06 PM Re: Is this Box "Accessible" ? Opinions Needed
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A definite "NO"; it appears that there is insufficient room to "work" on the conductors within the box. It also appears that a "stubby" screwdriver might fit.
Now, who was there first? the sparky or the duct man??? I don't know to many sparkies that would bust there buns to put a box in a spot like that. So when the AHJ comes in for inspection, who fails??? the sparky of course; anyone ever see a tin knocker get a red sticker???

Nuff said
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#113816 - 10/09/02 05:20 PM Re: Is this Box "Accessible" ? Opinions Needed
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Sure, as long as you use your plenum rated kliens after you cut an access hole through the duct!

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#113817 - 10/10/02 05:59 PM Re: Is this Box "Accessible" ? Opinions Needed
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Arseegee:
During a total rip out of a 25kSF lab/office, happened to notice a "funny"
Seems the sprinkler fitters had a HVAC duct in there way in a corridor ceiling; well, they went in one side, and out the bottom (nipples & elbow) & put the head on. (Nice tight holes) Guess the old addage "drop ceilings hide a multitude of sins" holds true. Fire Marshal thought it was "cute".
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#113818 - 10/12/02 10:29 PM Re: Is this Box "Accessible" ? Opinions Needed
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Another example of a tinner with a "I am the king S*** around here"
No respect for any one elses work.
See this most every job.
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#113819 - 10/13/02 09:06 PM Re: Is this Box "Accessible" ? Opinions Needed
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How much room is required for a 1900 box to be accessible,other than what common sense and experience tells us. Does the NEC address this?

[This message has been edited by txsparky (edited 10-14-2002).]
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#113820 - 10/15/02 08:07 AM Re: Is this Box "Accessible" ? Opinions Needed
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Where do we draw the line with the accessibility rules? The receptacles required at kitchen counters do not meet these rules. What is "equipment"? Are junction boxes covered by 110.26. What if it is just a pull box and there are no connections in it?
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#113821 - 10/15/02 08:59 PM Re: Is this Box "Accessible" ? Opinions Needed
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Does it come down to "likely to be worked on while energized" (or something to that effect)?
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#113822 - 10/16/02 06:29 AM Re: Is this Box "Accessible" ? Opinions Needed
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"Likely to be worked on while energized "

Now there's a broad statement! AHJ could apply that to anything electrical.
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