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#113789 - 10/06/02 09:59 PM Topic: >> Improper use of Wiring Methods and Materials  
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An example demonstrating the improper use of materials. Why is this NG?

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Here's a photo of a "receptacle" for an outdoor sign.

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#113790 - 10/06/02 11:38 PM Re: Topic: >> Improper use of Wiring Methods and Materials  
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Last I noticed, a "valise cap" is listed for rubber cord only. It looks like UF, and UF is not rubber cord, and UF is solid vs stranded. (If it's rx, same story), Also, last cap I saw had "round" strain relief built in cap, rubber cord is round, UF is flat, unless you mangle it.
Now, what about "weatherproof in use"???
Haven't seen a valise cap with a bubble cover yet! (Seen a few with the Scotch33 weatherproofing thou.
'Nuff said
John


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#113791 - 10/06/02 11:40 PM Re: Topic: >> Improper use of Wiring Methods and Materials  
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Is a cord cap listed for use with UF ?
Should be bell box,(mounted properly)gfci recep.,and bubble cover


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#113792 - 10/07/02 12:10 AM Re: Topic: >> Improper use of Wiring Methods and Materials  
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Notice the black tape marks? I think this one's been WPed w/ some Scotch33 (or more likely, the TruValue equivalent!)...

I think it is for Holiday Lighting, but ya gotta give 'em credit for their attempt to comply with 600.5(A) (Tongue firmly planted in cheek)!

Forgot to mention that it is installed in a stone structure elevating an outdoor sign. Wife says it was a fountain at one time.

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[This message has been edited by sparky66wv (edited 10-07-2002).]


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#113793 - 10/07/02 05:58 AM Re: Topic: >> Improper use of Wiring Methods and Materials  
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should'nt UF should be sleeved in pvc for string trimmer protection etc...


#113794 - 10/07/02 10:34 AM Re: Topic: >> Improper use of Wiring Methods and Materials  
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Oh well, yes it's probably subject to physical damage, and the "right way" is conduit and a WP box/recept/cover etc., but the red stickers are not BIG enough to list all the code articles & violations.
Inproper use of listed equipment, short & sweet. Start over.
John

PS Virgil:
I didn't notice that this was "yours" when I first saw the post.

[This message has been edited by HotLine1 (edited 10-07-2002).]


John

#113795 - 10/07/02 05:55 PM Re: Topic: >> Improper use of Wiring Methods and Materials  
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I'm sure you understand John, but for the sake of other readers I wish to point out that, yes, it is my picture, but not my work!

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I can only imagine that the maintenance guy did this about christmastime, using the available UF cable originally for compliance with 600.5(A), or if it was a fountain, for fountain lights originally. The building isn't very old, about three years.

It caught my eye while on a gig with Fat Headed Monster . BTW, due to said (forgotten about) gig, I didn't make it to Point Pleasant this year with the fife and drum corps.

No pics of the Lowe! [Linked Image]


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#113796 - 10/07/02 06:46 PM Re: Topic: >> Improper use of Wiring Methods and Materials  
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Good greif, Sparky
If you thought for 1 second that I would think that you installed that mess, you are DEAD WRONG.
If my posts inferred that "it's your work" then....I HUMBLY APOLOGIZE.
All I meant and still mean is........
THE PICTURE IS/WAS POSTED BY YOU.

Have a nice evening.

BTW; you refering to "Point Pleasant, NJ"??
If you do get up/out/over here; let me know,
food & drinks & discussion.

John


John

#113797 - 10/08/02 04:22 PM Re: Topic: >> Improper use of Wiring Methods and Materials  
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LOL! Oh, I know you knew better! [Linked Image]

Nope, Point Pleasant, WV near Ohio.

(I have been known to ignorantly do some scary work many moons ago... plus you should see my house! [Linked Image] )


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#113798 - 10/09/02 06:57 AM Re: Topic: >> Improper use of Wiring Methods and Materials  
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Hey Virgil,

The Monster dont play any Grateful Dead or Allman Brothers?
(The Dead did a nice job on "It hurts Me Too" during the late '60s/early 70s)


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