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#113370 - 05/18/02 07:19 AM Agricultural Violations
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Here's a couple of photos from the current job I'm on,


the first is of a thermostat "block" hanging from the ceiling... Yes that is Romex...



The second is of a UF feeder that is not bushed as it goes through the metal siding of the barn.


I'll have before and after pics of the service...

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#113371 - 05/18/02 07:44 AM Re: Agricultural Violations
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Guess I shoulda pointed out that these are the "before" pictures...

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#113372 - 05/18/02 04:09 PM Re: Agricultural Violations
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per photo #1 it looks like a rather big barn....
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#113373 - 05/18/02 04:37 PM Re: Agricultural Violations
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Nope, a small barn for the Tom turkeys, only about 50' x 120'. The rearing and laying barns are massive in comparison, 300' + long and about 75' wide.

The horse stables at the Greenbrier dwarf these... no idea on the sizes, we only did temp services there...
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#113374 - 05/19/02 03:05 PM Re: Agricultural Violations
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These are the before photos of the sub-panel feeding the barn. They won't let us replace the direct buried 4/0-2 w/ 3/0 Neutral Al URD cable supplying the thing...



The romex isn't the new yellow stuff, it is yellowed from the chemicals they use to clean the place. The panel, clocks, and contactor boxes are not dust or moisture proof at all, except for the 1" layer of silicone on top of everything.

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#113375 - 05/19/02 04:39 PM Re: Agricultural Violations
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Maybe it's just the photo quality, but did they use plumbing pipe for the nipples between the time clocks and the cabinets?
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#113376 - 05/19/02 04:47 PM Re: Agricultural Violations
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CTwireman,
i was afraid to ask that....
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#113377 - 05/20/02 12:33 PM Re: Agricultural Violations
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I'm sure that y'all will probably find a number of violations here. The thing that bothers me most about this panel/contactors/timers installation is its close proximity to the plumbing equipment (water heater, piping, and what appears to be a large storage tank of some type).

Question; What is the ceiling above the panel composed of?

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#113378 - 05/21/02 07:13 AM Re: Agricultural Violations
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CTwireman, yes you are correct, that was white pipe...

mamills, the ceiling is composed of some sort of reinforced plastic sheets that hold the insulation up. The joists are 48" centers... talk about fun crawling around in those attics (jumping from joist to joist more aptly describes)!

The large blue tank is a pressure tank for the water, it stores the water and has an air bladder to provide pressure. Common sight in the WV wilderness... (no city H2O).
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#113379 - 05/21/02 10:09 AM Re: Agricultural Violations
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After studying the photo a little more, it looks like there are some other problems here as well.

The rotting romex is definitely a problem. (110-11).

The way the romex flies through the air to feed the water heater is not kosher, even though I know this is commonly done. I would bet that the pressure switch on the well pump is fed in the same manner.

It appears that the time clock on the far right is fed with a piece of SO cord from the 4S box.

I really hope that the "Danger-High Voltage" sign is not serving as the cover for the relay cabinet, but I can't really tell from the picture.

There are working space violations too, specifically the water heater is blocking access to the contactor cabinet and it's too close to the panel, and the water pipe is a clear violation of 110-26(f).

'66, you said is "was" white pipe, and from reading your post, it sounds like you're cleaning up some of this mess. I can't wait to see the "after" pictures.
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