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#111838 - 02/27/07 09:08 PM Triplex Horrors
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#111839 - 02/27/07 09:09 PM Re: Triplex Horrors
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#111840 - 02/27/07 09:45 PM Re: Triplex Horrors
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Pic 1: Bryant panel, notice that the proper feeders are disconnected and two diferent wires are connected, running through the DRYER VENT, story goes, meth heads get their power disconected by POCO, so they steal some wire from a nearby construction site, climb tree, and attach wires to neighbors drop, then run wires across roof, down the side of the building and in through the dryer vent. Fortunately the neighbor saw this and called the fire department.

Pic 2: Same wires cut off, entering via dryer vent on outside of house.

Pic 3: Old range cable, spliced to feed for the garage, note both the open, bare copper splice, and the PVC drain pipe used as a raceway.

Pic 4: outside of building, note that the water pipe is now ABS drain pipe, buried maybe a couple inches deep.

Pic 5: Entering the Garage, now in EMT, with ABS for couplings, note that this enters RIGHT at ground level.

Pic 6: Diferent pic, same feeder.

Pic 7: Same feeder, bad splice in flying box, notice the water damage on the roof.

Pic 8: And here's what it feeds.

Pic 9: General bad wiring, unsuported romex etc.

Pic 10: More plumbing pipe, attached to PE cell. No support of course.

Pic 11: Romex, run outside in wet location, to emt with no protection.

Pic 12: Fortunately cut drop, the triplex will soon have a nice new service, with a new 4-pack meter base, and four new panels (three living units + house panel.) I'll send in pictures of the re-done wiring.

(I may edit some of these, as I didn't take the pictures and I may have mis-recalled some things)
#111841 - 02/28/07 08:58 AM Re: Triplex Horrors
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Registered: 05/16/05
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Loc: Southern California
Thank you, Will - You've brightened my day considerably.

Nothing I have to do today will be nearly as nasty as having to clean up that mess.

The plumber will be busy, too, I think.
#111842 - 02/28/07 05:33 PM Re: Triplex Horrors
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Loc: Bakersfield, CA (Originally Or...
That whole thing made me dizzy!! Proof that Home Depot needs to place a checkpoint or barrier of some type between the plumbing dept and the electrical dept
#111843 - 03/03/07 12:39 AM Re: Triplex Horrors
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Yeepers what a mess !

You may as well cut off the supply to those lethal non covered panels.
The product of rotation, excitation and flux produces electricty.
#111844 - 03/04/07 03:13 PM Re: Triplex Horrors
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#111845 - 03/04/07 03:14 PM Re: Triplex Horrors
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Picture #12 is all you need to know about that job.
#111846 - 03/04/07 09:29 PM Re: Triplex Horrors
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From your position in pic 12,
turn either left or right EXACTLY 90 degrees,stop, then proceed to run like he$$ as far away as you can.............
#111847 - 03/09/07 10:16 AM Re: Triplex Horrors
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Loc: SI,New Zealand
Crikey Will!,
What a beauty you've got on your hands there.
One little question for you fella's in the US, where a cable heads underground out of a building (or even into a building), is it required that a warning sign be fixed to the wall over where the cable exits the building?.
(Sorry I thought that black pipe was a power cable in black PVC}
Pic No 12 is a real worry, since when do PoCo's start connecting to lines mid-span?.

{BTW Will, not sure if it was you or Bill that numbered the photo's, but it sure makes for easier replies, without having to count the pics from the top. }
Let's face it, these days if you're not young, you're old - Red Green grin
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