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#111768 - 02/18/07 03:55 AM The Bath of Wrath
electure Offline

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From Dawg
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This is an outlet in my sister in law's
bathroom in her mobile home....No, she did not do this, it was like this when they moved there.
It's truly a "cheap handyman" way of fastening an outlet.




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#111769 - 02/18/07 06:23 AM Re: The Bath of Wrath
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Never happen here in the UK, the Electrical Police would be on you like a Can't have anything in a bathroom here, not even a bath!!!!!....probably a slight exageration , but not much! Soon to change the wiring reulations [Code] yet again. At present we have 4 levels; 1) Does not comply, dangerous, imediate attention required. 2) Requires attention { a bit open ended really } 3) needs further investigation. 4) Although compliant at the time of installation it does not now meet the current regs, this does not mean that it is dangerous. Very soon we will have a ~code 5~...'does not comply with current regs but give it a few weeks and it probably will...'





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#111770 - 02/18/07 07:58 AM Re: The Bath of Wrath
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Grrr I'm glad I don't live in one of those anymore. At least mine never had a handyman come in, only a (previous) homeowner.
Dawg, is this the least of the problems? Or does her house require the use of a bulldozer? Or at least a rewire?

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#111771 - 02/18/07 01:16 PM Re: The Bath of Wrath
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I would venture to take a guess that this outlet may be feed by a GFCI device as would be eluded to by the partially intact GFCI marking.
As such it may be that it is an ungrounded system, i.e. 2w romex or?, and, instead of using a receptacle downstream that does not have a grounded they simply defeated a grounded receptacles by placing screws in the grounding receptacles.

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#111772 - 02/18/07 02:36 PM Re: The Bath of Wrath
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That looks to be a device made by AMP or T&B, it does not use a box and NM cable is looped and split open to connect to device,BTW its UL listed but I think its a *****y way to make a device
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#111773 - 02/18/07 02:47 PM Re: The Bath of Wrath
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First time I came across these contraptions I was baffled! (I put a cut in box and a regular duplex where I needed to get rid of these, whole lotta fun getting any length out of the romex to put things together. This is one scenario I thanked God for Wago's)

I don't get what the screws in the ground holes are attaching the outlet to? The opposing drywall?
Once again proof that trailers are made with the cheapest parts you can get away with...

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#111774 - 02/19/07 07:35 AM Re: The Bath of Wrath
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Loc: Sale Creek, TN USA
This one rates right up there with that meter box with a spicket installed in the side, and the 'vise grip' neutral..lol IMO


I too have also ran across those types of recepts. Freind of mines grandmother lives in an old trailer, I replaced all of them. I was supprised however at the wiring, all 12awg NM, and the outerjacket was black and was a bit thicker than the NM I use currently for other jobs.

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#111775 - 02/27/07 05:13 PM Re: The Bath of Wrath
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Theelectrikid,

I'm not sure if this is the least of her problems or not. She only leases the mobile home and does not own it.

I do know the heat isn't very good as they have to remove the slotted floor vents to get any decent heat.

I also know there's dips in the floor in different areas of the trailer.

As for the screws in the ground holes I really haven't attempted to see what they're securing the outlet to.

And I don't know if it's on a GFCI breaker or not. Haven't really looked.

Yes trailers are cheap and all you need is a can opener to break into one. My s-i-l and her husband are wanting to find themselves another place to live that's a little bigger and probably not as poorly designed/constructed.

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#111776 - 02/27/07 05:30 PM Re: The Bath of Wrath
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10-4 Dawg.

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I also know there's dips in the floor in different areas of the trailer.


That's never a good thing with a trailer. Rip the floor up!

Ian (Hello? ******* Demolition?) A.
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#163361 - 05/06/07 10:11 PM Re: The Bath of Wrath [Re: Theelectrikid]
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Registered: 05/04/07
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:-| most trailers are in need of a molotov repair kit.

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