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#109842 - 12/19/05 07:25 PM Upgraded Service
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These are pics of a service I came across out in the middle of nowhere on a house that had a service call..... The panel is 200A 120/240V, with #2 THWN feeders in a 1¼" riser, and it was approved by the AHJ!


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#109843 - 12/19/05 11:26 PM Re: Upgraded Service
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undersized conduit for the #2 THWN?
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#109844 - 12/20/05 08:03 AM Re: Upgraded Service
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Undersized conductors for a 200A service! Minimum 3/0 THWN required for this size service.
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#109845 - 12/20/05 11:13 AM Re: Upgraded Service
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Guys, to heck with the riser!

How about the rat's nest of unsecured romex in that chase, the metal flex with romex in it that doesn't even connect to the panel....

I'd hate to see what's "under the hood" on this one!

Wonder what medication the AHJ was on too....
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#109846 - 12/20/05 01:13 PM Re: Upgraded Service
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That sticker looks to be several years old. The bad wiring probably happened after that inspection was done.
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#109847 - 12/20/05 06:08 PM Re: Upgraded Service
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I think the sticker is left over from the house it was previously installed in, somewhere else.
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#109848 - 12/20/05 07:55 PM Re: Upgraded Service
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Originally posted by Lostazhell:

Undersized conductors for a 200A service! Minimum 3/0 THWN required for this size service.


...and for that area?
See:Table 310.15(B)(6) (2002)


That is quite a mess!


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#109849 - 12/21/05 06:32 AM Re: Upgraded Service
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What a quality installation!! It looks like somebody beat this thing into the wall with a sledgehammer.

A couple of questions, Randy: What's up with the black romex'es (tied in a knot)? and, what was the nature of your service call there (at this house...?)?

This thing is quite literally a "Pandora's Box".

Mike (mamills)
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#109850 - 12/23/05 07:42 AM Re: Upgraded Service
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We can't suport a drop around here with 1 1/4 RMC even if it is a 100 A service.

They want 3" RMC for 200 amp if the mast is supporting the drop.

Is this CA where the mast is on the inside wall? We allways go on the outside with the mast.

Tom
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#109851 - 12/23/05 10:36 AM Re: Upgraded Service
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Just a little comment Randy.
I like the idea of that rain water deflector on the mast.
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