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#109528 - 10/30/05 09:10 PM Kitchen Receptacle
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What code does this violate?


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#109529 - 10/31/05 01:32 PM Re: Kitchen Receptacle
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First off, I'd cite 210-52(c)(5), as this is not located in a readily accessable spot.

Also 210-8(a)(6), GFI protection for kitchens.

Can 110-12 apply here as well?

(All above from '99 NEC)
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#109530 - 10/31/05 02:23 PM Re: Kitchen Receptacle
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One question Tim,
Has that Duplex been sawn off to fit above the bench?.
It's just that the splash-back looks awfully close to the wall.
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#109531 - 10/31/05 03:27 PM Re: Kitchen Receptacle
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Looks to me like the backsplash is a recent addition.

The duplex might have been there for a long time, and if it was installed previous to the requirement for GFCI protection, it is not a violation, although a suggestioncould be made to add the protection. It also could be a downstream device from a GFI receptacle or C/B.

Looks like it's time to take a chain saw to the backsplash, and let the countertop guy fix the results

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#109532 - 10/31/05 04:03 PM Re: Kitchen Receptacle
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As far as I can tell, the receptacle has been cut off at the top of the backsplash. The countertop was installed in the 70's and there is no gfi's in the house. As it is I have found only one circuit with a ground.
I plan on trying to remove the receptacle this coming weekend when I have more time.
Thanks for the responses.
Tim

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#109533 - 10/31/05 04:55 PM Re: Kitchen Receptacle
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Thank the Lord for that,
So my eyesight isn't as poor as first thought!.
Mind you, that's not a "field-modification" I'd like to see catch on.
It's anyones guess what's behind that splash-back then!.
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#109534 - 11/01/05 02:47 PM Re: Kitchen Receptacle
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Other than gfi protection, if that counter is not secured no violation.

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#109535 - 11/01/05 04:50 PM Re: Kitchen Receptacle
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if that counter is not secured


The plumbing pipes connected to the sink probably makes that counter not movable, so in a sense it's secured. Presumidly that box could be rotated and mounted sideways to allow full access to both outlets per code.

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#109536 - 11/01/05 05:23 PM Re: Kitchen Receptacle
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What is the requirement for full access to both outlets?

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#109537 - 11/02/05 05:09 AM Re: Kitchen Receptacle
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How about the requirement for the box itself to be accessible?

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