ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#108750 - 11/14/03 03:13 PM Unusual Light Setup
Admin Offline

Administrator
Member
Registered: 10/07/00
Posts: 3417
Loc: NY, USA


Quote:
These light posts are a recent installation. There are a couple dozen or so all done this way. Yes that is copper tubing.

- Electricmanscott
Top
2017 / 2014 NEC & Related Books and Study Guides
#108751 - 11/16/03 05:24 PM Re: Unusual Light Setup
electure Offline


Member
Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 4259
Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
Wow, Is this OK in your area, Scott?
Some U/F cable? inside of Cu plumbing pipe? I wouldn't want it at home
Top
#108752 - 11/17/03 03:15 AM Re: Unusual Light Setup
iwire Offline
Moderator
Registered: 01/05/03
Posts: 4391
Loc: North Attleboro, MA USA
I know it is weird and it would have not been my choice, .....but.

If that is UF inside that pipe it would seem to comply with 334.15(B)Protection from Physical Damage.

In that article they list all sorts of raceways plus

"or other means"

"or other metal pipe"

I really don't see a problem if it is UF, if it is single conductors that would be a problem.

[This message has been edited by iwire (edited 11-17-2003).]
_________________________
Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
Massachusetts
Top
#108753 - 11/17/03 09:51 AM Re: Unusual Light Setup
Gus1999 Offline
Member
Registered: 12/11/02
Posts: 24
Loc: Los Angeles, CA, USA
I would question how it was installed. If it was pulled through that 90d plumbing fitting, that would make some serious pulling resistance and heat possibly exposing conductors.

And speaking of heat - is that fitting soldered? If so I hope it was before the wires were put in but then that points back to the first problem.

Persoanlly I do like the idea of copper for cosmetics in this appliaction as it will turn patina over time. But one must consider a safe way to use it.

[This message has been edited by Gus1999 (edited 11-17-2003).]
Top
#108754 - 11/17/03 02:19 PM Re: Unusual Light Setup
Electricmanscott Offline
Member
Registered: 01/12/02
Posts: 1457
Loc: Holden, MA USA
I couldn't tell what kind of wire was in there. Maybe next time I pass by I'll climb up and take a closer look. I got some strange looks when I was taking these pistures!
Top
#108755 - 11/17/03 05:20 PM Re: Unusual Light Setup
ThinkGood Offline
Member
Registered: 08/07/02
Posts: 1081
Loc: Milwaukee, WI
Quote:
Maybe next time I pass by I'll climb up and take a closer look.


Honest, officer, I was not about to steal that light!
Top
#108756 - 11/18/03 10:36 AM Re: Unusual Light Setup
GETELECTRIC Offline
Member
Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 172
Loc: toronto canada
SAFETY BEING THE ISSUE HERE,WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND STEEL?
Top
#108757 - 11/18/03 03:58 PM Re: Unusual Light Setup
codeenforcementguy Offline
Member
Registered: 08/27/03
Posts: 29
Loc: Yuma, Arizona USA
That being a weather resistive box, would be interested in how / if they managed the threaded fitting that would probably need to be soldered to maintain the intergrity of the assembly .. I can understand the intent of the copper .. they want it to weather out so it compliments the antique lantern looks. ERFERTT
Top
#108758 - 11/18/03 04:25 PM Re: Unusual Light Setup
txsparky Offline
Member
Registered: 05/25/01
Posts: 552
Loc: Magnolia,.Texas U.S.A.
The elbow looks like it has been soldered to me.
Did they use a hose bib at the top to form a drip loop for the wiring?
_________________________
Donnie
Top
#108759 - 11/18/03 07:58 PM Re: Unusual Light Setup
crash Offline
Member
Registered: 10/21/03
Posts: 147
Loc: Calgary Canada
Every time I have seen soldered copper pipe next to wood, I have seen black marks on the wood. The wood next to this "conduit" contain no black marks. Which means that the "conduit" was assembled at a remote location and latter installed. If that were the case then how did the installer get tat last 90 into the box. Is there any "conduit" inside the post.
Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Member Spotlight
Member Since: 10/07/00
Posts: 3417
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Featured:

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box


Who's Online
0 registered (), 35 Guests and 9 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
 
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
 
Top Posters (30 Days)
Admin 47
HotLine1 43
gfretwell 19
Ruben Rocha 12
Trumpy 9
 
Newest Members
Scotto, Freecrowder, clee512, Jdscott2005, FAIZAN

ECN Electrical Forums - sponsored by Electrical Contractor Network - Electrical and Code Related Discussion for Electrical Contractors, Electricians, Inspectors, Instructors, Engineers and other related Professionals