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#108503 - 04/11/04 06:31 PM Sizing an Underground Box
electure Offline


Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 4226
Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
Could someone please help me with the box fill calculation for this splice kit! I unearthed this "splice kit" on a service trouble call. The home was built by a plumber in the 60's.

Jeff N.

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#108504 - 04/11/04 07:19 PM Re: Sizing an Underground Box
NJwirenut Offline

Registered: 09/15/01
Posts: 816
Loc: Bergen County, NJ
What's the problem with that?

12 fluid ounces = 21.65 cubic inches.

#108505 - 04/11/04 07:44 PM Re: Sizing an Underground Box
SvenNYC Offline

Registered: 08/19/02
Posts: 1685
Loc: New York City
That looks like a steel beer can. You probably won't have that problem of aluminium and copper reacting and corroding.

Last time I saw one of those (it was a Pepsi Can) I found as a kid digging through a pile of garbage for recyclable aluminium soda cans to sell at the supermarket for the nickel deposit back in 1989 or something like that. My mom threw it out a few weeks after I brought it home.

Take the can, wash it and see if you can sell it on Ebay for a couple of bucks. No joke.

I wonder how many cans of beer said "plumber" had drank before he thought up this little gem...

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#108506 - 04/11/04 09:37 PM Re: Sizing an Underground Box
DougW Offline

Registered: 06/08/03
Posts: 1083
Loc: North Chicago, IL
It's in better shape than some "listed" boxes I've discovered!

#108507 - 04/11/04 10:45 PM Re: Sizing an Underground Box
Lostazhell Offline

Registered: 02/21/04
Posts: 1248
Loc: Bakersfield, CA (Originally Or...
ROFL.... Thats cool! I found a ton of those beercans under a house about a year ago while running a bond for the water system... I've never actually seen one being "used" in such a manner though!
If he'd used a "tall boy" he would've had room to cap off the white conductor to the left also!


#108508 - 04/12/04 04:56 AM Re: Sizing an Underground Box
:andy: Offline

Registered: 10/18/03
Posts: 272
Loc: Germany
On vacation in Italy last year, one evening a part of the ~5 y.o. streetlamps along a sidewalk on the beach went dark. The next day, two italian sparkies started digging sand away just at our beach place, where one light's pole was placed. I was really amused by what came up. about 1,5 feet deep there was a concrete plate, they removed it, and under there was a small "box" about 1x1x1 ft. looked like made of concrete too, at the bottom was wet sand.

Their splice was 3-phase+n+GND AWG10 or 12 coming and going, and one 1phase+N+GND off to the lamp.
It was just taped!! A specific water-tight box would be prescribed here, at least in GErmany.

so guess how thes fixed it (two wires had shorted in the taped splice).
just opened up everything, and crimped it into ferrules (never seen that type of connection).
tjey just crimped the supply line and the lamp's wires into one side of the ferrule, and the line to the other lamps into the ferrule's other side. Tape-n-done. no more u-boats or anything.
and i was like , see you again next year.......

I tried to ask them how they located the fault just under this lamp, as they hadn't digged up anywhere else, but neither the ~40y.o. nor the ~20y.o. spook one word of english...

i wouldn't want to live there, unless i'd have my house installed by myself.
i once saw an outdoor splice box, where they did the only-pretwist job... just twisted stranded wires, but no wirenut had ever been there, tape again. hell.

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