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#107524 - 09/05/04 02:32 PM A Nice Job Destroyed
iwire Offline
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Loc: North Attleboro, MA USA
I went on a service call not long ago to a place I had been before.

My previous trip I had seen a very neat and professional electric room.

Now when I went back I see this store is undergoing a remodel / addition.

I get up to the electric room and could not believe my eyes.

Sorry this is picture heavy but you gotta see it. I will split it up.

This is exactly what I saw when I walked in.

Please note the temporary panel in the middle of the room. It is hung on the back of a lightweight metal storage cabinet. The cabinet is not secured to the structure, the only thing holding it is the weight of junk inside it.



Here is a better view of the temp panel.



Now I turn around to see the area I have to work. I need to work on the open blue cabinet right above the pile of *^#@.




Look around some more and see the modifications to the 480 volt switch gear.



At least suitable warnings where placed on the protective cardboard arc shields.

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#107525 - 09/05/04 02:38 PM Re: A Nice Job Destroyed
iwire Offline
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Now for an idea of what the permanent wiring looks like. This is the warehouse area and this is the finished product.

This picture shows a nice NM job about 15' off the ground.



This next one they must have decided to use cable trays and bundling to keep things neat.

Funny I did not see the panels full of 5 amp breakers that these cables need once derating is preformed.

There was about 100' of cable try that looked like this.



I hope I will not get anymore service calls here. The installing company should be handling this mess for at least the next year.

Bob
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#107526 - 09/05/04 02:39 PM Re: A Nice Job Destroyed
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Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
Wow!!!

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#107527 - 09/05/04 02:49 PM Re: A Nice Job Destroyed
iwire Offline
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Loc: North Attleboro, MA USA
Scott I was really upset when I saw this.

I took a lot more pictures but I really need to get a wide angle lens. The pictures do not convey the scale of the this job. Everywhere I looked was poor workman ship.

I forgot to get pictures of the out of service Fire Alarm pull stations. The store has never closed the FA should be active!

It seems like they may need it!

This is in a very small CT town I doubt highly they have an inspector, or if they have one he is blind.
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#107528 - 09/05/04 02:57 PM Re: A Nice Job Destroyed
iwire Offline
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Loc: North Attleboro, MA USA
To rant on.

I did not open a single door, panel J-box etc. What you see is how it stays.

Even the electric room doors where propped open so any store employee could walk in here.

The 480 volt switch gear had been all fused disconnect type gear, a standard for this customer. I have no Idea why the EC has modified it to breakers.

Looks like they should have ordered trim plates along with the bus bars.

You know I did not look behind the cardboard I hope the proper bus bars where bought and installed.

From the looks of this work they might have just hacked these breakers in place.
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#107529 - 09/05/04 02:58 PM Re: A Nice Job Destroyed
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Registered: 06/20/04
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Loc: Norton, Ma USA
Thought I had seen garbage before!!!!

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#107530 - 09/05/04 03:07 PM Re: A Nice Job Destroyed
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Registered: 04/14/02
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Loc: San Jose, CA
Bob, are you going to let the customer know about this substandard work? If you can convince them there are some serious hazards maybe they would be willing to hire a third party inspector to inspect this work. Joe would probably love to inspect this job. This EC should either be forced to make the necessary repairs (tear everything out and start over) or pay the cost to have another EC do it.
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#107531 - 09/05/04 03:22 PM Re: A Nice Job Destroyed
iwire Offline
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Loc: North Attleboro, MA USA
The customer has their own full time construction supervisors (often promoted from the maintenance dept) I am sure they see the work. Why are they ignoring it, I would have to guess they like the price.
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#107532 - 09/05/04 04:16 PM Re: A Nice Job Destroyed
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Registered: 10/07/00
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Loc: Boston, Massachusetts USA
I wish I knew where this was located, Bob?
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#107533 - 09/05/04 07:58 PM Re: A Nice Job Destroyed
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Loc: S.F.,CA USA
HLOY F*&%^*(&%&(***o&^)*(&^)*(&^*(&%^*(&%^*&^*(&)&^*()&^*()&^*&^^&*%^**&*, I like the part about "480V You will Die!" They may have put the warning up after being bit a few times?????

Now, dare I say it, that I used to work with these guys, but it's not World Cup time, nor is it acceptable to drink that much on the job! But, I'm sure glad they "travelled" out of town. And, not "tinckering" 'round here no more.
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