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#106607 - 03/03/05 08:33 PM Old Habits Die Hard
electure Offline


Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 4226
Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
Especially bad ones.

............June 24, 2003............

............Feb. 23,2005.............

Some guys just never get any better.
Do you recognize his pattern?

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#106608 - 03/03/05 09:19 PM Re: Old Habits Die Hard
Trumpy Offline


Registered: 07/05/02
Posts: 8532
Loc: SI,New Zealand
Wow, Electure!.
How on earth do you get a cover anywhere near them boxes?.
Let's face it, these days if you're not young, you're old - Red Green grin

#106609 - 03/03/05 09:23 PM Re: Old Habits Die Hard
NORCAL Offline

Registered: 09/25/02
Posts: 805
Another case of trying to stuff 10 pounds of manure in a 5 pound bag.

#106610 - 03/04/05 03:07 PM Re: Old Habits Die Hard
Active 1 Offline

Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 684
Loc: Grayslake IL, USA
I see some inprovement. They used a deep box in the 2nd photo. They went from blue to gray wire nuts on the whites. Gave up the wrapping tape on the nuts too. Give them another ten years.

#106611 - 03/04/05 03:53 PM Re: Old Habits Die Hard
mvrandazzo Offline

Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 105
Looks like they didn't have enough room for the flex connection either!

Blessings, Mark

#106612 - 03/04/05 05:48 PM Re: Old Habits Die Hard
HLCbuild Offline

Registered: 12/05/04
Posts: 206
Loc: Herndon,Va USA
Anyone got a block of wood and a hammer?

#106613 - 03/05/05 08:51 AM Re: Old Habits Die Hard
rhiphi Offline

Registered: 01/27/05
Posts: 39
Loc: Groton NY
I wonder if he derated ???????????????

#106614 - 03/05/05 06:26 PM Re: Old Habits Die Hard
sierra electrician Offline

Registered: 02/12/05
Posts: 220
Loc: North Fork, CA USA
I've seen this with exact thing with five 4S extension boxes on it. Just try to remove them with out shorting something out.


#106615 - 03/05/05 07:35 PM Re: Old Habits Die Hard
trollog Offline

Registered: 10/02/04
Posts: 273
Loc: San Diego California USA
I have also seen the 4 box extensions.. once and only once.. To comment on that point about some guys not getting any better- yes it's true and for most of these types that I have seen, the "improvement" ends at about the second day of employment or the first paycheck, whichever comes first... Amazing that they last in the trade, some of them...

#106616 - 03/10/05 05:36 PM Re: Old Habits Die Hard
electure Offline


Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 4226
Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
There's a very nasty habit involved here...over and above what's shown.

The first picture was when this new hire was left on his own for the first time. The decision was made that he could not be left unsupervised, so he worked for a long time with someone watching over his work.

His work improved until he could be left on his own again.

The second picture is of a "side job" that he did. Without someone to answer to, he reverted back to his "default setting" again, and might have well have signed his name to it. There was another side job he did, and the workmanship was pretty much the same.

The big problems on the side jobs?
  • They were done with the company's material. (the customer also gave him money to buy material with)
  • They were done on company time, while he was supposed to be elsewhere, doing other things.
  • At the same time as he was "on the clock", he was charging the customer for this fine side work.
  • He never finished the jobs.

I'd say he has a bit of a bad habit with ethics, as well as his hacked out work.

[This message has been edited by electure (edited 03-10-2005).]

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