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#105189 - 06/30/04 02:19 PM Thou Shalt Not Steal!
Joe Tedesco Offline
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Guess which neighbor has the eight dollar a month energy bill, and which one complained about excessive use? ops:

How would the meter even register if the main was off? Through the neutral?



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#105190 - 06/30/04 04:54 PM Re: Thou Shalt Not Steal!
codeenforcementguy Offline
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Registered: 08/27/03
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No registered reading on the meter, the eight dollar charge was a monthly service charge.

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#105191 - 06/30/04 06:39 PM Re: Thou Shalt Not Steal!
Lostazhell Offline
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Registered: 02/21/04
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Maybe he was trying to derate for that seriously packed looking conduit on the bottom? Wonder what happened to the insulators for the left breakers bus bars?

-Randy

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#105192 - 06/30/04 10:11 PM Re: Thou Shalt Not Steal!
pauluk Offline
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Is this arrangement of different services running onto main breakers in one panel common on duplex and triplex buildings?

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#105193 - 07/02/04 09:09 AM Re: Thou Shalt Not Steal!
Active 1 Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
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Loc: Grayslake IL, USA
So to fix his complaint did you turn off the breaker on the left and turn on the right one? Use breaker locks?

Or you could flip flop the service wires to each breaker and leave them on and off like they are now. The one tenant would not know what is going on when he gets his bill.

Easyest change the numbering on the meters.

No one said anything about the missing bushing on the bottom.

Tom

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#105194 - 07/02/04 03:27 PM Re: Thou Shalt Not Steal!
wa2ise Offline
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Registered: 11/29/02
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If I wanted to steal power from a neighbor or the landlord, I'd move only one of the two hot wires. Less obvious that the theft is happening, as consumption still shows on my meter ("I'm conserving energy") and the victum sees only a milder increase.

Of course I never did such things...

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#105195 - 07/02/04 09:40 PM Re: Thou Shalt Not Steal!
Lostazhell Offline
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Active1 wrote:
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No one said anything about the missing bushing on the bottom


That looks like PVC coming in from the "rope burns" cutting through the threads...

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#105196 - 07/03/04 07:59 AM Re: Thou Shalt Not Steal!
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At first I thought it was ridgid. I forget the rest of the world uses PVC above ground.

Tom

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#105197 - 07/03/04 08:12 AM Re: Thou Shalt Not Steal!
iwire Offline
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Anyone want to point to the exception not requiring bushings on PVC?

PVC or not 4 AWG or larger in a raceway needs a bushing.

Bob
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#105198 - 07/08/04 12:41 AM Re: Thou Shalt Not Steal!
Lostazhell Offline
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Bob,
I believe you, but I've never seen a bushing on a PVC connector, nor ever been called on for not having one!

Just another thing I've learned from ECN!

-Randy

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